From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 00:08:43 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 00:08:43 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C7E063E80 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:08:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A169F63DEE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22883-01-98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (outside.cs.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 954CC63DEC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:08:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] usb or lp Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:07:59 -0500 From: Sape Mullender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >> bind ep1data /n/lp: inconsistent mount mntgen creates /n/xxx files on demand. If you try to bind to /n/xxx, mntgen will create a directory to bind to (in the mntgen file system). ep1data is not a directory but a file, so the bind fails. Create the (empty) file /n/lp by hand. Sape From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 00:48:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 00:48:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3E54863EBD for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:48:40 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2D94463E17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:48:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04014-01-84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9D07363E14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUFm0Xn015077 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:48:00 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUFm0tQ002750 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:48:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:48:00 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> Message-ID: References: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 geoff@collyer.net wrote: > I couldn't find any free NVRAM in a stock PC when I last looked. The > PC started out short of resources (e.g., 8 then 15 IRQs) and some of > those limitations are still with us. Apparently nobody in a position > to fix it (e.g., Microsoft and Intel) thinks that having a chunk of > unallocated NVRAM would be useful enough to make it standard. "Wait a minnit" I thought. Then I realized -- I only used the NVRAM on linuxbios machines. Never mind. I'm sure the PC bios uses it all ... ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 01:28:26 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 01:28:26 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5CDEB63E6A for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:28:22 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BBC0363E31 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01314-01-56 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ophiopogon.tommyk.com (unknown [204.60.70.245]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3E3A763E2E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (miscanthus.jasongurtz.com [65.172.152.16]) by ophiopogon.tommyk.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id iAUGRWFE025266 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <41AC9FC0.3010807@tommyk.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:28:48 -0500 From: Jason Gurtz Organization: TJV Video, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9+ (Windows/20041127) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram References: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> In-Reply-To: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SpamAssassin: Version: 3.000000 Score: -3 Required: 4 Tests: TOMMYK_MAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On 30-Nov-04 02:58, geoff@collyer.net wrote: > I couldn't find any free NVRAM in a stock PC when I last looked. Some motherboards, Intel desktop boards in particular, support a boot splash screen. Perhaps you could use that area to store stuff (after making sure the bios is set to NOT display the splash screen!) Or, maybe it would be really neat to hide data stenographicaly in an actual splash screen. Off the top of my head the images are 640x480 at 256 colors. Not sure if they're compresses, there's a special tool they have to use a bmp and put it in nvram. Of course all this isn't standardized :/ ~Jason -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 01:29:27 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 01:29:27 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DAF04614C for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:29:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E684563E5E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01314-01-57 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 20B1563E9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:28:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] usb or lp Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:28:21 -0500 From: Sape Mullender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >>> bind ep1data /n/lp: inconsistent mount > > mntgen creates /n/xxx files on demand. If you try to bind to /n/xxx, > mntgen will create a directory to bind to (in the mntgen file system). > ep1data is not a directory but a file, so the bind fails. Create the > (empty) file /n/lp by hand. I fixed the problem on sources by moving /n/lp to /dev/lp and updating usb/usbprint and the man page. You don't have to create a bind point in /dev. usb/usbprint does that for you. If you use usbprint, you probably need to adjust your /sys/lib/lp/devices. Sape From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 01:37:37 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 01:37:37 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3943363E6F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:37:36 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 54DD263E37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19868-01-30 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from 9fs.org (82-68-131-214.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.68.131.214]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 97EEC6184 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [212.44.43.80] (helo=[192.168.0.86]) by 9fs.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.43) id 1CZAzn-000Pqx-Ge for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:36:55 +0000 Message-ID: <41ACA1A5.2030003@9fs.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:36:53 +0000 From: Nigel Roles User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram References: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> <41AC9FC0.3010807@tommyk.com> In-Reply-To: <41AC9FC0.3010807@tommyk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Jason Gurtz wrote: >On 30-Nov-04 02:58, geoff@collyer.net wrote: > > >>I couldn't find any free NVRAM in a stock PC when I last looked. >> >> > >Some motherboards, Intel desktop boards in particular, support a boot >splash screen. Perhaps you could use that area to store stuff (after >making sure the bios is set to NOT display the splash screen!) > >Or, maybe it would be really neat to hide data stenographicaly in an >actual splash screen. Off the top of my head the images are 640x480 at >256 colors. Not sure if they're compresses, there's a special tool they >have to use a bmp and put it in nvram. > >Of course all this isn't standardized :/ > >~Jason > > > It's not nvram, it's part of the BIOS flash. I don't think I'd like to reprogram my BIOS every time.... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 01:47:37 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 01:47:37 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 378D763EDE for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:47:36 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 19A85317A1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:47:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07098-01-73 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9F1DD31752 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUGkvwQ011899 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:46:57 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUGkvtQ005803 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:46:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:46:57 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: <41ACA1A5.2030003@9fs.org> Message-ID: References: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> <41AC9FC0.3010807@tommyk.com> <41ACA1A5.2030003@9fs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Nigel Roles wrote: > > Some motherboards, Intel desktop boards in particular, support a boot > > splash screen. Perhaps you could use that area to store stuff (after > > making sure the bios is set to NOT display the splash screen!) that's in FLASH, which is another kettle of fish. NVRAM is a simple inb/outb to program, but FLASH, well, it is harder. But it would be WAY cooler to use it, so ... > > actual splash screen. Off the top of my head the images are 640x480 at > > 256 colors. Not sure if they're compresses, there's a special tool they > > have to use a bmp and put it in nvram. intersting idea ... ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 03:31:29 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 03:31:29 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DBCC263F2B for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:31:08 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CFE0263B6D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27990-01-43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8793763B6B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so98566wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:30:13 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=prLB+Gc/tQPeIX7RvFEMUwa9an3X2hsVdMOrrAWySSDcM+spCmNjW2jEbfglZMiAkmDSMHUI0UluUvgOIAH4gJxBNKHmRfddF0EFf5YPGLo1qHw/yRP3E9n9C0X0ng3qUoc/1wRQVDC6hUP2bsNCFmkw4j3F7ASP9DyrGlUFmYA= Received: by 10.54.51.74 with SMTP id y74mr193443wry; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.51.1 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:30:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e35c062041130103079b16253@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 10:30:12 -0800 From: Jack Johnson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> <41AC9FC0.3010807@tommyk.com> <41ACA1A5.2030003@9fs.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:46:57 -0700 (MST), Ronald G. Minnich wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Nigel Roles wrote: > > > > Some motherboards, Intel desktop boards in particular, support a boot > > > splash screen. Perhaps you could use that area to store stuff (after > > > making sure the bios is set to NOT display the splash screen!) Actually, it could be very cool to store it in a format that was valid for the splash screen, maybe some nice moire pattern. It would be nearly indecipherable by mere mortals, and would be a lot of (geek) fun. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 04:10:50 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 04:10:50 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 805E163EC5 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:10:48 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 95FFD63E4A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07244-01-34 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.mail.ru (mx2.mail.ru [194.67.23.122]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EC75463E66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [217.117.76.16] (port=1353 helo=pc) by mx2.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CZDO2-000KmK-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:10:06 +0300 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:08:59 +0200 From: Sergey Reva X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14816809671.20041130210859@mail.ru> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] usb or lp In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey Reva , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hello 9fans, I find problem! New usb driver not configure file epXdata for writing or inputing, old driver do this. Why this happen? When I run usb/usbd -v -d I can see this: .... maxpkt 64 interval 0ms [OUT] [Bulk] #usbd know about direction on this endpoint .... maxpkt 64 interval 0ms [IN] [Bulk] But when I ls -l /dev/usb0/1 I get this: --r--r--r U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep1data #but not set direction for files --r--r--r U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep2data In old installation this looks like: ---w--w--w- U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep1data --r--r--r-- U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep2data When I set direction manually all works well: echo -n 'ep 1 bulk w 64 32' >/dev/usb0/1/ctl Thanks for help! Sergey -- http://rs-rlab.narod.ru mailto:rs_rlab@mail.ru From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 04:45:14 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 04:45:14 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC3AB63EFF for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:45:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C80F63E60 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05536-01-92 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E1DE363E4A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUJiApU029511; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:44:11 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUJiAtQ014775; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:44:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:44:10 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: <6e35c062041130103079b16253@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <286ea827434f4d0db748bfacf74715d9@collyer.net> <41AC9FC0.3010807@tommyk.com> <41ACA1A5.2030003@9fs.org> <6e35c062041130103079b16253@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Jack Johnson wrote: > for the splash screen, maybe some nice moire pattern. It would be > nearly indecipherable by mere mortals, and would be a lot of (geek) > fun. as long as it looked like glenda, let's see, 480x320 is about 128 Kbits if you just put it in the low bit! ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 04:48:34 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 04:48:34 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B58A763EFF for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:48:30 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AB46A63EA1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18676-01-51 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.vitanuova.com (unknown [213.146.155.10]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 431B963E98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:47:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0171b2bf472735fcc781f5a02e8695e1@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:54:03 0000 From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > > for the splash screen, maybe some nice moire pattern. It would be > > nearly indecipherable by mere mortals, and would be a lot of (geek) > > fun. > > as long as it looked like glenda, let's see, 480x320 is about 128 Kbits if erm as pointed out earlier, the splash screen's gotta be *off* otherwise a screen grab could potentially figure out your nvram & hence decipher your passwords... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 04:52:37 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 04:52:37 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF69263DC7 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:52:36 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 22EA763D43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25575-01-9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B2E2263A4D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUJpxuU019019 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:51:59 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iAUJpxtQ015167 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:51:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:51:59 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: <0171b2bf472735fcc781f5a02e8695e1@vitanuova.com> Message-ID: References: <0171b2bf472735fcc781f5a02e8695e1@vitanuova.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 rog@vitanuova.com wrote: > erm as pointed out earlier, the splash screen's gotta be *off* > otherwise a screen grab could potentially figure out your nvram & > hence decipher your passwords... shoot, I thought we were gonna steganographisize the splash, never mind. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 05:22:19 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 05:22:19 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C766231858 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:22:12 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 182F963E97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10894-01-76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (outside.cs.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 12C7A63E91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:21:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: rs_rlab@mail.ru, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] usb or lp Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:21:32 -0500 From: Sape Mullender In-Reply-To: <14816809671.20041130210859@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > New usb driver not configure file epXdata for writing or inputing, old > driver do this. Why this happen? > > When I run usb/usbd -v -d I can see this: > > .... maxpkt 64 interval 0ms [OUT] [Bulk] #usbd know about direction on this endpoint > .... maxpkt 64 interval 0ms [IN] [Bulk] I saw that too yesterday. I'll look into it tonight. Hopefully you'll have an update tomorrow. Sape From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 06:58:44 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 06:58:44 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 219A663F6D for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:58:33 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EC80063F00 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04722-01-75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B9D2763F01 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so107117wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=UzEjjxdhQvfUrx0AIkYsA7FEJkkmZdpqwv7OTG1wHgaz/ejzVwZrRcATfK1/nXM4KmdEq6MT6hFcLgiA3ZVcFQ6Fc+Xn1Ru3ujygIEGjKNElYXakoxcyA0N2lOmcQlpNOpDAHRJyM9uVebMpi42zFRhGXFR0YQJMDnLsgdf1wKg= Received: by 10.54.31.7 with SMTP id e7mr301694wre; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.51.1 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e35c06204113013572fb8379e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 13:57:55 -0800 From: Jack Johnson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <0171b2bf472735fcc781f5a02e8695e1@vitanuova.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:51:59 -0700 (MST), Ronald G. Minnich wrote: > shoot, I thought we were gonna steganographisize the splash, never mind. Me too. I figured a screen grab pre-boot would be difficult. Easier to floppy or USB boot and copy the image from flash. Console access is the security hole. If you meet someone who can decipher your passwords from a digital picture of your boot screen, either: - hire them - run and dodge the bullets - bow in homage -Jack P.S. I love the idea of hiding it in Glenda.... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 16:44:43 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 16:44:43 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B75A363FAF for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:44:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 04AFE63F2D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23949-01-5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B2C2F63F19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so921194wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:43:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ov94aJm/c5Acyp+symGZDPY9X04Ji6WjNgKua3hXeQ0DrHCeQmA+LH/TIBHJjx3PAcHxMQKnICY9bQ+DBIq0PGKQamcS3WwKY60IAWlvUptfCmhTyTeCTNV87w/bQKw2h4ZzN2pxWYRDJQzKmbG/l10cwC6zSNr6xkG8UmHPiwI= Received: by 10.54.6.79 with SMTP id 79mr555399wrf; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.42.79 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:43:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <88a4775604113023432c5bc4fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:43:50 +0100 From: Matthias Teege To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] plumbing and cpu server X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Moin, I change my plumbing rules for postscript files from "plumb start page -w $file" to "plumb start cpu -h cx -c page -w $file". If I plumb a postscript file after that the terminal logs "/dev/label rc can't open mounted directory forbids creation". I can run "cpu -c page /sys/doc/9.ps" without problems. What is the correct rule for the plumber? Matthias From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 19:03:54 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 19:03:54 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D2E1A63FA2 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:03:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3508563E0E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03961-01-80 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:03:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B409C63DF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041201100309.CXBN3596.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:03:09 +0000 Received: from felix.quintile.net ([81.96.207.141]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041201100309.OSSM2076.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@felix.quintile.net>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:03:09 +0000 Message-ID: <639bca122197568274dacfe4b714acc5@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:03:06 0000 To: mteege@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plumbing and cpu server In-Reply-To: <88a4775604113023432c5bc4fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I believe what is happening is plumber is started before rio in your profile (mine is) so when the plumber starts cpu its namespace doesn't include /dev/label (the rio window's label). you could add somthing into your profile for service == cpu like bind /dev/null /dev/label just to shut page up, though I havent tried this. Are you sure you want to run page on a cpu server? Gs is fairly cpu intensive but I would have expected the slower access to /dev/draw across the network to have outweighed any advantage; maybe your terminal has very limited cpu/memory resources? -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 19:09:27 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 19:09:27 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6E4E163FA8 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:09:26 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B0CC463F60 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03961-01-93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 76FE763F5F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so929236wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 02:08:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=f3mxLhi+D/OBc6OfcOKxb5giA8sgP2vudKNN0nJp3lSAGVM8ihQraorNVBVLZA2oyOiVRcreqkVr8PweKvDWoYlGNaQlq4xOZVKYVhjckaeLW4TXixPzNQIMlE2Hfo1JNpf7MxpIkyth3uMDLOO78cc2Cj7Bp/9hTOYaU4G/qu8= Received: by 10.54.25.66 with SMTP id 66mr611444wry; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 02:08:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.42.79 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 02:08:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <88a4775604120102086e7e7f24@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:08:46 +0100 From: Matthias Teege To: Steve Simon Subject: Re: [9fans] plumbing and cpu server In-Reply-To: <639bca122197568274dacfe4b714acc5@quintile.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <88a4775604113023432c5bc4fc@mail.gmail.com> <639bca122197568274dacfe4b714acc5@quintile.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Teege , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:03:06 0000, Steve Simon wrote: > Are you sure you want to run page on a cpu server? Gs is fairly > cpu intensive but I would have expected the slower access to > /dev/draw across the network to have outweighed any advantage; > maybe your terminal has very limited cpu/memory resources? I understand. I try it only for playing with the plumber rules. I think my terminal has enough power for page. Many thanks Matthias From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 19:57:57 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 19:57:57 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C99F963EAB for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:57:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56EAF63E80 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10282-01-50 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1795263E77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 05:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041201105720.OSFJ3596.mta09-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:57:20 +0000 Received: from felix.quintile.net ([81.96.207.141]) by aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041201105720.WPLA2076.aamta04-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@felix.quintile.net> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:57:20 +0000 Message-ID: <429e4a5930544b4945b4ba5bacbc16c2@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:57:16 0000 To: Win2k3@quintile.net, 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Subject: [9fans] (no subject) X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, My (work) world is being turned upside down by the introduction of windows 2003 servers. I need, in decreasing order of importance: RFC2136 DNS update CIFS message signing kerbros / GSSAPI LDAP client WebDav I shall be trying to write some of this over the comming months, however if anyone has any thing to contribute in terms of code =E2=98=BA, ideas, opinions etc. I would love to hear. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 20:03:39 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 20:03:39 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC3DF63F93 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:03:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E7BAE63F85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10311-01-63 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F73563E77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from zeus.cs.utwente.nl (zeus.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.12]) by denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iB1B2tFA019137 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:02:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (zamenhof.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.13.77]) by zeus.cs.utwente.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB1B2sn9025226 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:02:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (belinfan@localhost) by zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id iB1B2rd14890 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:02:53 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200412011102.iB1B2rd14890@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> X-Authentication-Warning: zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl: belinfan@localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.0 06/18/2004 with version: MH 6.8.3 #20[UCI] To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] spin models In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2004 00:07:51." References: From: Axel Belinfante X-Organisation: University of Twente, Department of Computer Science, Formal Methods and Tools Group, PO Box 217, NL-7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 53 4893774 X-Telefax: +31 53 4893247 X-Face: 3YGZY^_!}k]>-k'9$LK?8GXbi?vs=2v*ut, /8z, z!(QNBk_>~:~"MJ_%i`sLLqGN, DGbkT@ N\jhX/jNLTz2hO_R"*RF(%bRvk+M, iU7SvVJtC*\B6Ud<7~`MGMp7rCI6LVp=%k=HE?-UCV?[p\$R? mI\n2/!#3/wZZsa[m7d;PKWiuH6'~ List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > i think a version of spin newer than that in plan 9 (ca. 2000) > supports channel passing and dynamic processes. > a glance at spinroot.com suggests that might be right. not that I'm much of a spin expert (we have one/some here, don't know if he/they will be available during twente9con), but running xspin (4.2.0) in simulation and/or verification mode on slave2.spin brings me further than rog suggested in his mail. wr.r.t. automatic transformation: (disclaimer as above) there has been work on extracting promela models from C code, http://spinroot.com/spin/News/news36.html so maybe doing something from limbo could be interesting/possible too. Axel. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 20:04:17 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 20:04:17 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7BE0A63FBC for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:04:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70CC063FCB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10282-01-68 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.aprote.ee (ns.aprote.ee [80.235.78.106]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A3DE563FA9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:03:09 -0500 (EST) Received: Message by Barricade ns.aprote.ee with ESMTP id iB1B37Pm031254 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:03:07 +0200 Received: from tiitl.aprote.com ([192.168.1.32]) by black.aprote.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:03:06 +0200 To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject) References: <429e4a5930544b4945b4ba5bacbc16c2@quintile.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:03:04 +0200 From: "Tiit Lankots" Organization: Aprote Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <429e4a5930544b4945b4ba5bacbc16c2@quintile.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2004 11:03:06.0449 (UTC) FILETIME=[55E69410:01C4D795] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > RFC2136 DNS update > CIFS message signing > kerbros / GSSAPI > LDAP client > WebDav Python has many of these things. Python has been ported to Plan 9. I'd recommend it for RAD. You can rewrite it later in C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 23:21:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 1 23:21:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 24BC163FAE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:21:31 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0C80F63E6F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22629-01-5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ED22A63D64 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so697686rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:20:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dyCwkNVs1/vCypp5gLc9CF/UZsGqH+ZKKVho/uI1POw1pv5Hp0FvSCCGBPpCr5L+Kf6o8NVwhzoZ5VgN2LdUrXUXCFZ0ZcC1TBuLpddK8Mk55fQ9PVZKMO0QtzUhUPcEnz354J6PM7UFn2SLR+BND6eq6UsIpcaHj2XISpMXGsk= Received: by 10.38.15.61 with SMTP id 61mr231828rno; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 06:20:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.65.80 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:20:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:20:43 -0500 From: Russ Cox To: 9fans <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] sources user 'name' X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu could the person who uses the sources account 'name' email me? thanks. russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 00:35:52 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 00:35:52 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC7FE63FC2 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:35:50 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 833BE63DCF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27075-01-21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6408263D6D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [217.117.76.21] (port=1123 helo=pc) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CZWVZ-0001bq-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:35:10 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:33:35 +0200 From: Sergey Reva X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4210899532.20041201173335@mail.ru> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: <6afe6de49142591b2859ea64af5e8a55@quintile.net> References: <6afe6de49142591b2859ea64af5e8a55@quintile.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey Reva , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hello 9fans, I heard many ideas in this thread, but I don't hear comment for my offer: RS> How about external FlashROM (24c01 - 128 bytes, 24c02 - 256 bytes RS> and 24c04 - 512 bytes) on LPT (or COM) port through i2c bus. It's RS> more easy and most standardised. I2C very easy bus and can be attached to LPT, COM or anything else (i2c controller integrated in system board). In this way you need: 1. 24c01(02, 03) IC (manufacturer Atmel or other) 2. 4 wires (SDA, SCL, plus, minus) 3. LPT connector 4. maybe 2-3 diodes 5. Cold head, hot heart and direct hands :-) IC can be powered form LPT, COM, Game port or direct from PC. Disk emulation (CF-IDE and other), usbflash it's very $$$ way! Additional floppy or HDD, but why we use PXE. New idea: create special nvram driver with parameter setted while compilation. This is bad idea, this my opinion, but costless. I wont see comment. Sergey. -- http://rs-rlab.narod.ru mailto:rs_rlab@mail.ru From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 01:04:07 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 01:04:07 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 010E863FDB for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:04:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 29A2863F3C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09544-01-90 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8281263F3A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iB1G3M0e024668; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:03:22 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iB1G3MtQ024174; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:03:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:03:22 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Sergey Reva , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: <4210899532.20041201173335@mail.ru> Message-ID: References: <6afe6de49142591b2859ea64af5e8a55@quintile.net> <4210899532.20041201173335@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Sergey Reva wrote: > Hello 9fans, > > I heard many ideas in this thread, but I don't hear comment for my offer: > RS> How about external FlashROM (24c01 - 128 bytes, 24c02 - 256 bytes > RS> and 24c04 - 512 bytes) on LPT (or COM) port through i2c bus. It's > RS> more easy and most standardised. > I2C very easy bus and can be attached to LPT, COM or anything else > (i2c controller integrated in system board). In this way you need: > 1. 24c01(02, 03) IC (manufacturer Atmel or other) > 2. 4 wires (SDA, SCL, plus, minus) > 3. LPT connector > 4. maybe 2-3 diodes > 5. Cold head, hot heart and direct hands :-) you want to do that 60 or 100 times? I don't. sorry. > Disk emulation (CF-IDE and other), usbflash it's very $$$ way! usbflash. Good idea. > New idea: create special nvram driver with parameter setted while > compilation. This is bad idea, this my opinion, but costless. not a bad idea for some applications. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 02:21:26 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 02:21:26 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1E1DE63DF6 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:21:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 29468639FD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19931-01-66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E4D9C639CA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:20:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1a66e3020d7e65b0fdf8fd4a64e6d4b1@plan9.bell-labs.com> To: rs_rlab@mail.ru, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] usb or lp Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:20:40 -0500 From: Sape Mullender In-Reply-To: <14816809671.20041130210859@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > New usb driver not configure file epXdata for writing or inputing, old > driver do this. Why this happen? > > When I run usb/usbd -v -d I can see this: > > .... maxpkt 64 interval 0ms [OUT] [Bulk] #usbd know about direction on this endpoint > .... maxpkt 64 interval 0ms [IN] [Bulk] > > But when I ls -l /dev/usb0/1 I get this: > > --r--r--r U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep1data #but not set direction for files > --r--r--r U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep2data > > In old installation this looks like: > ---w--w--w- U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep1data > --r--r--r-- U 0 rlab rlab 0 Sep 13 22:55 /dev/usb0/1/ep2data > > When I set direction manually all works well: > echo -n 'ep 1 bulk w 64 32' >/dev/usb0/1/ctl This is not really a problem because you have to send a string like ep 1 bulk w 64 32 to the control device before you can use the endpoint anyway. I fixed a problem in usbaudio related to checking maxpkt. There's an update on sources. Sape From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 03:21:43 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 03:21:43 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A0DDCB5B4 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:21:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CC1F1C6A9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08785-01-71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 072ABC6A69 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [217.117.76.25] (port=1132 helo=pc) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CZZ5D-0000W3-00; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 21:20:08 +0300 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 20:18:26 +0200 From: Sergey Reva X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1320790374.20041201201826@mail.ru> To: "Ronald G. Minnich" , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: References: <6afe6de49142591b2859ea64af5e8a55@quintile.net> <4210899532.20041201173335@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey Reva , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hello Ronald! Wednesday, December 1, 2004, 6:03:22 PM, you wrote: RGM> you want to do that 60 or 100 times? I don't. sorry. Yes, I don't think about clusters :( And not all 9fan is electrician or radio amateur :) IMHO 100 so simple devices - work for one day. >> Disk emulation (CF-IDE and other), usbflash it's very $$$ way! RGM> usbflash. Good idea. You mean, put 60-100 USB Flash Drive's with 128 Mb and use only 512 bytes. Maybe I not understand something? I think if we have fs we don't need disk on other machines. And how about prices, it terrible (and multiple it to 60-100)? Thanks for comment, it better than ignoring! Sergey -- http://rs-rlab.narod.ru mailto:rs_rlab@mail.ru From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 03:31:36 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 03:31:36 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E58F25ED1 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:31:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0D7CA5ED1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24218-01-64 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 48E215ECF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iB1IUqeB026879; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:30:52 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iB1IUqtQ031407; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:30:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:30:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Sergey Reva Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: <1320790374.20041201201826@mail.ru> Message-ID: References: <6afe6de49142591b2859ea64af5e8a55@quintile.net> <4210899532.20041201173335@mail.ru> <1320790374.20041201201826@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Sergey Reva wrote: > You mean, put 60-100 USB Flash Drive's with 128 Mb and use only 512 > bytes. Maybe I not understand something? I think if we have fs we don't > need disk on other machines. And how about prices, it terrible (and multiple > it to 60-100)? flash drives are free. Really. They hand them out instead of pens now. ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 03:37:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 03:37:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE4B8C4C2 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:37:40 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36BD4C1AF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12045-07-34 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 120E5C181 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 71so1613116wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:37:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=arYfqscZmpjqPRsQhFiMieqCdkXl7wLoXkt3NLnhtO6/4Yq7S+cNK0YJd07oNkiFwevmjxWZLSq1ki8jpzLzyP4Tpfp4Sv4GYMwpzyOgD3xHgMKQzq7UGy4hMGlaIPxuf1RirS/CjR2hgqu4hYiGDvmFAni2TkejMgm8KwJ/aB4= Received: by 10.54.24.8 with SMTP id 8mr812314wrx; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.51.1 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:37:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e35c06204120110375bf2dce3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:37:05 -0800 From: Jack Johnson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <429e4a5930544b4945b4ba5bacbc16c2@quintile.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <429e4a5930544b4945b4ba5bacbc16c2@quintile.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:57:16 0000, Steve Simon wrote: > I need, in decreasing order of importance: > > RFC2136 DNS update > CIFS message signing > kerbros / GSSAPI > LDAP client > WebDav Some of the standard UNIX utils might port over easily using APE. I'd be tempted to look at ldaputils and cadaver for the bottom two on your list. The others are likely to be (much) more of a challenge. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 03:43:01 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 03:43:01 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6CEB2C4ED for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:43:00 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 58904C299 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24218-01-83 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1DFA3C294 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so228472wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:42:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=G8dqrl7BKWk/4SwzKoWP+S4aREg0hwaOWYBY5EyToGILyIsd3+UHZYn9wtdJRc0UM60t+8I5CtWYoRSN1OK0g4wOBUEPypT7WfTFjX0/YKs/Ffnoss7GWLfFPLxoNZlvbZYtGGbHxiywiI4e6cToY7hfXEUOUoIkehTIebBk3JU= Received: by 10.54.51.74 with SMTP id y74mr808905wry; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 10:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.51.1 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:42:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e35c062041201104253f27f74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:42:23 -0800 From: Jack Johnson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] pxe - nvram In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6afe6de49142591b2859ea64af5e8a55@quintile.net> <4210899532.20041201173335@mail.ru> <1320790374.20041201201826@mail.ru> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 11:30:52 -0700 (MST), Ronald G. Minnich wrote: > flash drives are free. Really. They hand them out instead of pens now. I think you could get a metric ton of 16MB CF cards free from all the new digital camera purchases coming this Christmas. The readers are a different story, though. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 03:48:29 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 03:48:29 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6C11831A2F for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:48:22 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36D6BC4E9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19145-03-34 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:47:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (cassie.foobarbaz.net [216.218.196.232]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 07A6EC4DC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4970666B50; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:47:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:47:37 -0800 From: Christopher Nielsen To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] (no subject) Message-ID: <20041201184737.GO44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: <429e4a5930544b4945b4ba5bacbc16c2@quintile.net> <6e35c06204120110375bf2dce3@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6e35c06204120110375bf2dce3@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I used to work with Greg Stein and chatted with him a few times about WebDAV for Plan9. He suggested trying to port neon before writing support from scratch. On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:37:05AM -0800, Jack Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:57:16 0000, Steve Simon wrote: > > I need, in decreasing order of importance: > > > > RFC2136 DNS update > > CIFS message signing > > kerbros / GSSAPI > > LDAP client > > WebDav > > Some of the standard UNIX utils might port over easily using APE. I'd > be tempted to look at ldaputils and cadaver for the bottom two on your > list. > > The others are likely to be (much) more of a challenge. > > -Jack > -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 05:07:27 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 05:07:27 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 34FD6C67A2 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:07:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE5CD31E4F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05850-01-19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ensemada.lava.net (ensemada.lava.net [64.65.64.27]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B886F31992 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by ensemada.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554F3301AC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:06:37 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:06:37 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] kc/ka/kl alignment? X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hi, When a uvlong is a return value from a function, such as: uvlong func(void); the kc compiler passes in a pointer to a uvlong in the first argument (R7). However, it appears that the uvlong value is not aligned on an 8-byte boundary. Shouldn't all uvlong's be aligned on 8-byte boundaries in sparc? (This would entail keeping the stack aligned too, I imagine, or doing some funky alignment math in the prologue of affected functions). Tim N. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 07:03:09 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 07:03:09 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7498131992 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:03:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6FEA53192C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:02:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20573-01-32 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.204]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A851231928 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1001449wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:02:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uku57YX+4oAyBQrLdglMKSq4JvNLlFCBrjxEgUO4oIjVevJED7gsa74KVPvm/Yj0ykih3eEzbxc4DAxXXyJupnydiz8rPTyrWnjvbqM14AF1ZTVvHGfilIRVY6eP2x0m4vzQfFpYLn5BIRnZOpG0OtWFtjNgLJ/fiijrVG8y0K4= Received: by 10.54.28.77 with SMTP id b77mr903828wrb; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:02:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.57.14 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:02:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:02:23 -0600 From: Eric Van Hensbergen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] OSDI BoF X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Okay, based on feedback I got from folks I'm going to shoot for scheduling the birds of a feather at OSDI in San Francisco for this coming Monday at 7pm. I'm in an IBM Research BoF from 6-7pm so I can't schedule it sooner. If anybody who was planning on attending can't make the 7pm slot (or would prefer a later slot) let me know. Based on feedback I got Sunday and Tuesday night were out. I won't be able to confirm the date/time/place until I am at the conference unfortunately. -eric From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 07:14:56 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 07:14:56 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F29A6C67B6 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:14:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1CEC431C84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20573-01-55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:14:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 49ABC63D53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:14:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from zeus.cs.utwente.nl (zeus.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.12]) by denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iB1ME9hu024187 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:14:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (zamenhof.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.13.77]) by zeus.cs.utwente.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB1ME8n9010341 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:14:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (belinfan@localhost) by zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id iB1ME7I24224 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:14:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200412012214.iB1ME7I24224@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> X-Authentication-Warning: zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl: belinfan@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Axel Belinfante X-Organisation: University of Twente, Department of Computer Science, Formal Methods and Tools Group, PO Box 217, NL-7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 53 4893774 X-Telefax: +31 53 4893247 X-Face: 3YGZY^_!}k]>-k'9$LK?8GXbi?vs=2v*ut, /8z, z!(QNBk_>~:~"MJ_%i`sLLqGN, DGbkT@ N\jhX/jNLTz2hO_R"*RF(%bRvk+M, iU7SvVJtC*\B6Ud<7~`MGMp7rCI6LVp=%k=HE?-UCV?[p\$R? mI\n2/!#3/wZZsa[m7d;PKWiuH6'~ Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:14:07 +0100 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.44 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] twente9con call for participation and contributions X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu What? meet other people interested in plan 9 (inferno etc.) Where? University of Twente, Enschede, the Netherlands When? tuesday 21 + wednesday 22 december 2004 I have added a page to the wiki(*) about the twente9con plan: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Twente9con_2004/ It is supposed to contain all twente9con info I have posted here (if you miss something, tell me, and/or fix the page). I hope that we succeed to keep notes during the meeting, and update the page during/after the meeting, to have it as a `report' after the meeting. If you will be coming, and are not yet on the 'will be there' list, please 'register' by sending me an email containing - dietary preferences (there may be a free lunch after all - no guarantees, yet, though) - mac-addresses of wifi cards you intend to bring (still need to make sure I can provide access, but I don't expect obstacles in this respect) - mobile phone numbers to support regrouping in case we succeed in getting all lost - things you would like to do or discuss - things you could contribute to the program - things you would like to see in the program but cannot contribute yourself (like things you would like to learn) For several of the things I ask above I provided entry points in the wiki page - feel free to add it there in addition to (or instead of) mailing those to me. Hope to see you at twente9con, Axel. (*) I also added a 9con page, linked off the main plan 9 wiki page, that I intended to be a list of pointers to future and past 9cons etc (plans resp. reports, pictures). feel free to edit/update and/or to edit/change the link off the main plan 9 wiki page; I was tempted to add a new section MEETINGS to the main wiki page (with 9con as only item), but did not do that yet. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 07:44:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 07:44:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 59155C67EC for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:44:40 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 49CE0C6713 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01019-01-10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E2D63C6773 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so781248rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:43:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CvQyNkl094uAXxjEXkoyG5x//Rn8fAMElIZfOYsCdhiobP/AKm/KL83f3Nwz5phLnMNwPIDsJo8aRf47hbEyQ75wgSr+fUh+awfrIKZE642T3sIH79mjlEBa2Flw/43hCa9q7hXydlAfBX/3qdk87jmdKoViayB31KZi+F9HYUY= Received: by 10.38.150.72 with SMTP id x72mr469273rnd; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.65.80 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:43:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:43:50 -0500 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] kc/ka/kl alignment? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > the kc compiler passes in a pointer to a uvlong in the first > argument (R7). However, it appears that the uvlong value is > not aligned on an 8-byte boundary. Shouldn't all uvlong's > be aligned on 8-byte boundaries in sparc? (This would entail > keeping the stack aligned too, I imagine, or doing some funky > alignment math in the prologue of affected functions). This would matter if the compilers ever emitted instructions that addressed the uvlongs as 64-bit numbers, but they never do. They only treat uvlongs as though they are arrays of 2 32-bit ints. Russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 09:26:48 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 09:26:48 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D50F9C6725 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:25:58 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD6F931909 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26049-01-67 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.vitanuova.com (unknown [213.146.155.10]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3E9DF318DC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:25:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <219622be950eb9f8dd35d935a8ca91d1@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] spin models Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 00:31:33 0000 From: rog@vitanuova.com In-Reply-To: <200412011102.iB1B2rd14890@zamenhof.cs.utwente.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > not that I'm much of a spin expert (we have one/some here, > don't know if he/they will be available during twente9con), but > running xspin (4.2.0) in simulation and/or verification mode > on slave2.spin brings me further than rog suggested in his mail. i tried it on what i believe to be to the latest version (4.2.1), and the main problem (fixed limit on number of channels created) still seems to be there. i don't think it was envisaged that channels might be used in this way. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 19:18:16 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 19:18:16 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3971463D41 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:18:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BF33B639B4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13790-01-87 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 95D87639A5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so22047rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:17:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VXMiRK4ZOiLLOi0Uy7ltUSHLDsq6DYrz7bms+TFBN3cjAUe9r/qS2FEgb9w66gQ4ssvzDk6tIbcAOl5NarFAMfCeSd2Y1vLwKoFN47DppTKRfS/i2/reUq+xEY4ydCvu7X+ColvA1FLZuisooLAdvdJVR8CKFMDZ2FBA5FWx7Q0= Received: by 10.38.150.72 with SMTP id x72mr718301rnd; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:17:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.46 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 02:17:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32a656c2041202021778782ff9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:17:32 +0900 From: Vester Thacker To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>, 9fans-jp@plan9.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Subject: [9fans] Community photos X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Since it isn't everyday that fellow 9fans get together, Takeshi Yamanashi and I decided to take some pictures and share them with everyone. The photos are from yesterday's Google Tokyo R&D Center open house. We had the great pleasure of meeting Rob Pike. And Takeshi Yamanashi produced a video of Rob's introduction. I hope everyone enjoys the photos and the movie. They are located at: http://mordor.tip9ug.jp/who/vthacker/photos/index.html Many thanks to Rob Pike for inviting us to the event and making this possible. -vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 19:43:25 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 2 19:43:25 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8CDB4C4C5 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:43:24 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0462FBF17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:42:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18079-01-19 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.197]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4373BF0F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 05:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so23449rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:42:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QfUnqZxz2h3ntIEl6hqWr5Olh0REfltv/2X2beiK8x0iimCrFINe++KtGSe3xxV3fOFYOC0+HMuy8pkjhkNBTzPSM4ljCZ/JX12hvhwLDXUaCOiyWkyBs0dk5iCv81pgkqhRuddxl8aFL09eLO9fAYMVdXAuxvRArSmPa2MHpxU= Received: by 10.38.77.68 with SMTP id z68mr732798rna; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.208.34 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 02:42:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4f34febc04120202426184b36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:42:49 +0900 From: John Barham To: "9fans@cse.psu.edu" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] Mailing list to newsgroup gateway problems? X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Barham , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I've noticed that some posts to the mailing list are not showing up on comp.os.plan9, which makes it less useful as a searchable archive. Anyone know why? John From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 3 11:22:23 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 3 11:22:23 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 73C2D63E60 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:22:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7452D63D11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03034-01-94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F33263D0F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 21:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so115424rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 18:21:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HXO4fizs9JSvEjzK+U/TqjhvY3HXLkwZbxvI5KrI2IptEFvpixzPboq5l1pmu/pXeWfxcytLPalkSw9KcsjZb1fDvnOmaaVDJeMzLIS+qkAx1Wd6eW6l7NrkljH8gB5Oyr68PB1zQomPYgnHewOFeDAYAdIX06Ca55cEL1+ytiE= Received: by 10.38.96.9 with SMTP id t9mr311218rnb; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 18:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.46 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:21:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32a656c20412021821116de3d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:21:26 +0900 From: Vester Thacker To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>, 9fans-jp@plan9.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 community IRC logs X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Not everyone has time to spend on irc.freenode.net and chat. So to help those whom are interested but don't have the time, Takeshi Yamanashi has set up 3 IRC logs for you. The channels that are logged are: #plan9, #v9fs and #tip9ug. The logs are located at: http://mordor.tip9ug.jp/irclog/ Enjoy. -vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 3 12:43:49 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 3 12:43:49 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 230FA63DC2 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:43:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 40D7C31935 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23588-02-2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from galapagos.bx.psu.edu (galapagos.bx.psu.edu [128.118.201.21]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 540F131857 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15481 invoked by uid 991); 3 Dec 2004 03:43:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20041203034315.15480.qmail@g.galapagos.bx.psu.edu> Date: 2 Dec 2004 22:43:15 -0500 To: John Barham , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Mailing list to newsgroup gateway problems? In-reply-to: <4f34febc04120202426184b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f34febc04120202426184b36@mail.gmail.com> Comments: In-reply-to John Barham message dated "Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:42:49 +0900." Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 22:43:15 -0500 From: Scott Schwartz X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu | I've noticed that some posts to the mailing list are not showing up on | comp.os.plan9, which makes it less useful as a searchable archive. | Anyone know why? I don't know how the gateway is working these days, but the list archives are indexed by google. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Dec 4 01:18:31 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Dec 4 01:18:31 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B009763DF5 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:18:18 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A02C63A84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00051-03-94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3BB85B04E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041203161735.DODT20947.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:17:35 +0000 Received: from felix.quintile.net ([81.96.207.141]) by aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041203161735.VGEG3407.aamta07-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@felix.quintile.net> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 3 Dec 2004 16:17:35 +0000 Message-ID: <647c3cdb2dd9aad235aa3ce9c74726b8@quintile.net> From: "Steve Simon" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:30:10 0000 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] netgear fa511 X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hi, Managed to damage the dongle on my netgear FA410 ether card. Anyone got the FA511 to work? The obvious choice, the 411 (a 410 with an integrated RJ45) appears to be obsolete. Failing that anyone use any other 100Mb PCMCIA ether cards with Plan9? -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 12:04:32 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 12:04:32 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 77FA963D80 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:27:39 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2968663D1A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29528-01-91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com (sandman1.uolinc.com [200.221.4.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1B8B063D23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD68D12D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:31:00 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sandman1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17551-07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:31:00 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet (sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet [192.168.206.101]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278D6D0BC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:30:59 -0300 (BRT) Received: by sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:25:19 -0200 Message-ID: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A01A3E7A8@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> From: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros To: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros , "''9fans@cse.psu.edu ' '" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:25:13 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4DB00.24F02F60" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DB00.24F02F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, teste on some other machines. both CDs booted like vmWare did :( so, it's my ide controler for sure. Is there any purpose in trying booting with a floppy to see that the next stage in the boot will reconize it? -----Original Message----- From: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros To: '9fans@cse.psu.edu ' Sent: 5/12/2004 17:14 Subject: RE: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD Yes that seems to be the case since it only gives me floppy. But they're IDE0:0 and IDE:1:0. that is, each on one cable, but on the same controler (onboard KX133 chipset) the board i'm using: http://www.k7v.com/ i'm off to test on other machines. Is there any documented way to install plan9 or inferno using only floppies or something like OpenBSD ftp install? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sent: 5/12/2004 16:48 Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD the loader (9load) can't seem to find both the hard drive and the CDROM (IDE, right?). are they on the same cable by any chance? andrey ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DB00.24F02F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD

 OK, teste on some other machines. both CDs = booted like vmWare did :(
so, it's my ide controler for sure. Is there any = purpose in trying booting with a floppy to see that the next stage in = the boot will reconize it?


-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros
To: '9fans@cse.psu.edu '
Sent: 5/12/2004 17:14
Subject: RE: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD

Yes that seems to be the case since it only gives me = floppy. But they're
IDE0:0 and IDE:1:0. that is, each on one cable, but = on the same
controler (onboard KX133 chipset)

the board i'm using: http://www.k7v.com/ <http://www.k7v.com/> 

i'm off to test on other machines. Is there any = documented way to
install plan9 or inferno using only floppies or = something like OpenBSD
ftp install?


Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: andrey mirtchovski
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Sent: 5/12/2004 16:48
Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD

the loader (9load) can't seem to find both the hard = drive and the
CDROM (IDE, right?).  are they on the same = cable by any chance?

andrey

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DB00.24F02F60-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 12:04:49 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 12:04:49 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6C63463D53 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:32:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 00B3263D2F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03981-01 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8CD3C63D3F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:32:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: RE: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 12:32:21 -0700 From: andrey mirtchovski In-Reply-To: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A01A3E7A7@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Yes that seems to be the case since it only gives me floppy. But they're > IDE0:0 and IDE:1:0. that is, each on one cable, but on the same controler > (onboard KX133 chipset) > > the board i'm using: http://www.k7v.com/ > > i'm off to test on other machines. Is there any documented way to install > plan9 or inferno using only floppies or something like OpenBSD ftp install? > > > Thanks > you can download a floppy from the plan9.bell-labs.com web site and do a network install. also try downloading a complete iso image from that site and burning it anew. i couldn't find out from your first message whether you burned a brand new iso image. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 12:05:14 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 12:05:14 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F4DD63ED4 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:00:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4E30663E1E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21016-01-48 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3FD2363DC2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB620SkC012751; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id iB620SJ13353; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 21:00:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200412060200.iB620SJ13353@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2004 19:11:34 EST." Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:00:28 -0500 From: Dan Cross X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Russ Cox writes: > > what's your cd-rom connected as? the install tries > > sdD0!dos!9pcflop.gz > > sdC is primary, sdD is secondary, 0 is master, 1 is slave. I suspect this might be a problem with 9load. I pulled, rebuilt my kernel, and copied a new(er) version of 9load into my 9fat on my CPU server this morning. I had to get someone on the East Coast to copy an older version of 9load into place to get it to come back. - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 12:37:43 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 12:37:43 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B03C63DBF for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:12:12 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1C87663DAA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18340-01-31 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7C1BC63DA9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so57467rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 05 Dec 2004 16:11:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=CBYoAMbQbY7UNN7bz+Ag2j21GK3Yvs7zi1VkdBSy4o4tu/Gx9M13bgcyFLg431qIjNATQm50d9gJ17REpzpyi3klHIbTU5oUUW+6R2ZWPPiq/4EFe32Te2S2kLLQS8hjgVvTu6KiE0QIMQV58arfWnPgERF+G/IsJ5v3ZtQVt/k= Received: by 10.38.96.54 with SMTP id t54mr142411rnb; Sun, 05 Dec 2004 16:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.34 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:11:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:11:34 -0500 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD In-Reply-To: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BC2@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BC2@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu what's your cd-rom connected as? the install tries sdD0!dos!9pcflop.gz sdC is primary, sdD is secondary, 0 is master, 1 is slave. russ On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:38:59 -0200, Gabriel Cosentino de Barros wrote: > > > I've downloaded the plan9 instalation CD and booted a vmWare virtual machine > using that .iso as a cd rom media. > > All went fine. It booted and i could install plan9 and even see the liveCD > stuff. > > Then, to not be locked in the 30-day vmWare, i went to burn that CD and > install in dual boot. > > First i burned it with Nero 6. I booted the computer, and it said something > about booting a 2.88MB floppy image. then ended up with the folowing lines > (may be diferent since i haven't wrote down all the text): > > Available boot devices: fd0 > what device to use: > Must use device!file > what device to use: > not found (ok, this text was very diferent but the idea was that :) > what device to use: > not found > > > When i first instaled in vmWare, it haven't outputed the "2.88MB floppy" > thingy, and started a menu with 1. install, 2. run from cd... > > My first tought was that nero messed up with the image (I recall the > installer, in vmWare, showing me that there were 2 tracks on the CD ROM, > wich was the iso. and nero only wrote one track from that same iso) so i > wasted another media burning the .iso with alchool120%. but i've got the > same results. > > Any ideia what i'm doing wrong? or the boot sequence is suposed to behave > like that (detecting vmWare, etc)? > > > Thanks, > Ganbriel From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 12:37:54 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 12:37:54 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A9D4763D78 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:03:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B985F63D6C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02365-01-71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.202]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 205AC63D66 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so97104wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 05 Dec 2004 12:03:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m6DOK7MvnGTQwn7STr5V1er6R/qqq67Ap3ttrGd5mUoKHdooYaZw7QYvEXqQFqx/ifySPHTBQylH01gRhOgCkIFUniPz9X4oVNpN5ygIPurrzd1DoGDjdvY1OwSWgSK48f5hCiK/feg+1vDIv2REoJxb2l1xytRHg1xLNDkkDPg= Received: by 10.54.6.78 with SMTP id 78mr763026wrf; Sun, 05 Dec 2004 12:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.57.14 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 12:03:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:03:02 -0600 From: Eric Van Hensbergen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: plan9dev@googlegroups.com, v9fs-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Just signed up on the official board. The Plan 9 Birds of a Feather at OSDI is scheduled for 7-8pm on Monday (12/6) in the Barcelona I room (right after the IBM Research BoF). These BoFs can most likely be attended by folks not actually at the conference. If you need directions to the hotel in San Francisco, please go to the OSDI Web Site (http://www.usenix.org/osdi04). A preliminary agenda for the BoF: * Quick Overview of Plan 9 (no more than 5 minutes) * Quick overview of the current "state of the system" * Technology Transfer activities (v9fs, plan9port, etc.) * Community Discussion * Ongoing Projects Summary * Group Discussion on the community and plans for future The intent is to focus the BoF on the last topic. If folks want other things put on the agenda, please let me know. Hope to see lots of folks there. -eric From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 12:38:08 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 12:38:08 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3374F60C3 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:17:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3382B63D13 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29912-01-3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com (sandman1.uolinc.com [200.221.4.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7B3EF63D11 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC81D0BA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:20:41 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sandman1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17306-07 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:20:41 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet (sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet [192.168.206.101]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28258D0B9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 16:20:41 -0300 (BRT) Received: by sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:15:01 -0200 Message-ID: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A01A3E7A7@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> From: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros To: "'9fans@cse.psu.edu '" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 17:14:57 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAFE.B5B7B380" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAFE.B5B7B380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes that seems to be the case since it only gives me floppy. But they're IDE0:0 and IDE:1:0. that is, each on one cable, but on the same controler (onboard KX133 chipset) the board i'm using: http://www.k7v.com/ i'm off to test on other machines. Is there any documented way to install plan9 or inferno using only floppies or something like OpenBSD ftp install? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Sent: 5/12/2004 16:48 Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD the loader (9load) can't seem to find both the hard drive and the CDROM (IDE, right?). are they on the same cable by any chance? andrey ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAFE.B5B7B380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD

Yes that seems to be the case since it only gives me = floppy. But they're IDE0:0 and IDE:1:0. that is, each on one cable, but = on the same controler (onboard KX133 chipset)

the board i'm using: http://www.k7v.com/

i'm off to test on other machines. Is there any = documented way to install plan9 or inferno using only floppies or = something like OpenBSD ftp install?


Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: andrey mirtchovski
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Sent: 5/12/2004 16:48
Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD

the loader (9load) can't seem to find both the hard = drive and the
CDROM (IDE, right?).  are they on the same = cable by any chance?

andrey

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAFE.B5B7B380-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 12:54:48 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 12:54:48 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 103AE63D0C for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:49:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B6F63C599 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28823-01-41 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 85B4DC504 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:48:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6bf99e94c4f93d3f27927112ace0ee20@plan9.ucalgary.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 11:48:29 -0700 From: andrey mirtchovski In-Reply-To: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BC2@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu the loader (9load) can't seem to find both the hard drive and the CDROM (IDE, right?). are they on the same cable by any chance? andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 13:10:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 13:10:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 81B4863DA2 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:41:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7C68A63EB for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15994-02-86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com (sandman1.uolinc.com [200.221.4.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BE1C2639B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F14DD1C3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 12:44:44 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sandman1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08994-08 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 12:44:43 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet (sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet [192.168.206.101]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B23D0DF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 12:44:43 -0300 (BRT) Received: by sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:39:04 -0200 Message-ID: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BC2@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> From: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros To: "'9fans@cse.psu.edu'" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:38:59 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAE0.8A38E350" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] plan9 instalation CD X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAE0.8A38E350 Content-Type: text/plain I've downloaded the plan9 instalation CD and booted a vmWare virtual machine using that .iso as a cd rom media. All went fine. It booted and i could install plan9 and even see the liveCD stuff. Then, to not be locked in the 30-day vmWare, i went to burn that CD and install in dual boot. First i burned it with Nero 6. I booted the computer, and it said something about booting a 2.88MB floppy image. then ended up with the folowing lines (may be diferent since i haven't wrote down all the text): Available boot devices: fd0 what device to use: Must use device!file what device to use: not found (ok, this text was very diferent but the idea was that :) what device to use: not found When i first instaled in vmWare, it haven't outputed the "2.88MB floppy" thingy, and started a menu with 1. install, 2. run from cd... My first tought was that nero messed up with the image (I recall the installer, in vmWare, showing me that there were 2 tracks on the CD ROM, wich was the iso. and nero only wrote one track from that same iso) so i wasted another media burning the .iso with alchool120%. but i've got the same results. Any ideia what i'm doing wrong? or the boot sequence is suposed to behave like that (detecting vmWare, etc)? Thanks, Ganbriel ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAE0.8A38E350 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable plan9 instalation CD

I've downloaded the plan9 instalation CD and booted a = vmWare virtual machine using that .iso as a cd rom media.

All went fine. It booted and i could install plan9 = and even see the liveCD stuff.

Then, to not be locked in the 30-day vmWare, i went = to burn that CD and install in dual boot.

First i burned it with Nero 6. I booted the computer, = and it said something about booting a 2.88MB floppy image. then ended = up with the folowing lines (may be diferent since i haven't wrote down = all the text):

Available boot devices: fd0
what device to use: <i wrote fd0>
Must use device!file
what device to use: <i wrote fd0!plan9>
not found (ok, this text was very diferent but the = idea was that :)
what device to use: <i wrote = fd0!386/9load>
not found


When i first instaled in vmWare, it haven't outputed = the "2.88MB floppy" thingy, and started a menu with 1. = install, 2. run from cd...

My first tought was that nero messed up with the = image (I recall the installer, in vmWare, showing me that there were 2 = tracks on the CD ROM, wich was the iso. and nero only wrote one track = from that same iso) so i wasted another media burning the .iso with = alchool120%. but i've got the same results.

Any ideia what i'm doing wrong? or the boot sequence = is suposed to behave like that (detecting vmWare, etc)?


Thanks,
Ganbriel

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DAE0.8A38E350-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 19:07:21 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 19:07:21 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6FF2E63EA9 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 05:07:09 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BB9F031674 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 05:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18657-02-2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 05:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com (mailhost.ntl.com [212.250.162.8]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4D23817BAA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 05:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com ([212.250.162.8]) by mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041206100634.OOTM20947.mta08-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:06:37 +0000 Received: from felix.quintile.net ([81.96.207.141]) by aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20041206100633.EIRX27146.aamta01-winn.mailhost.ntl.com@felix.quintile.net> for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:06:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Steve Simon" Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:06:30 0000 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] supermicro dual P3 works X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu For the archives; I have finally made my Dual P3 to be reliable. I had two problems: It appears to need P133 RAM even though the bus runs at 100Mhz. An unreliable NTP source that caused my clock to occasionally jump back 3 weeks - and when it jumped forward again, cron started all the missed tasks, giving "no procs" on the console. I have submitted a patch to cron making it catch up just the last days worth of missed tasks, and I now use three NTP sources. Thanks to all those who gave advice. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 6 23:15:21 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 6 23:15:21 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A9D9563F91 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:15:13 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D8D5463F22 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12284-01-33 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:14:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 873AC63F1D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 09:14:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4cef3b6e1174bb5726536d3ab7f58f65@plan9.ucalgary.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] supermicro dual P3 works Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 07:14:37 -0700 From: andrey mirtchovski In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu ugh, i thought that cron bug was fixed in 2003?! andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 02:21:52 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 02:21:52 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0DB3AC670F for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:21:30 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5875163F51 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26372-01-24 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ensc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (ensc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.2.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AF60A63F5C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:20:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (imgw1 [136.159.5.9]) by ensc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB6HGNb2030497 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:16:23 -0700 Received: from fbsd (fbsd [136.159.7.68]) by imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB6HGDS8009387 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:16:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:16:09 -0700 (MST) From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] text paste from drawterm to X X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I got a few minutes this morning to fix drawterm's text paste to X. There's a new source and binaries for Linux and FreeBSD on my web page (sorry, no access to OSX or Windows): http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/drawterm-linux.gz http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/drawterm-freebsd.gz http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9/drawterm.tgz this enables a user to snarf text in Plan 9 via drawterm and paste it to an X server's console (xterm/rxvt and friends). You won't be able to paste to things like web browsers and the like, but you blame X for that :) andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 02:37:05 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 02:37:05 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4A82963FBD for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:37:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 06C8063E7C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27870-01-23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DFEE463E37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB6IVkvD028054 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:31:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 13:31:46 -0500 (EST) From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] text paste from drawterm to X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Thanks a lot for this. Just a curiosity though, why isn't tolpin's vanishing character fix included? I've read it slows drawterm down (i haven't had time to fiddle with it), but if that's the only complaint can it be optionally turned on with a flag? Thanks again! Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 02:41:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 02:41:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BF86B63FB8 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:41:41 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 56E3663F39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29284-01-9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:41:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ensc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (ensc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.2.4]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E3E5F63F37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (imgw1 [136.159.5.9]) by ensc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB6HZrQh008472 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:35:53 -0700 Received: from fbsd (fbsd [136.159.7.68]) by imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB6HZiS8010266 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:35:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:35:40 -0700 (MST) From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavis-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] vncv patch X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu also a new patch for vncv -- to send scrollbutton events to the other side of the conversation. i'm only mentioning this because drawterm now also recognizes and sends scroll button events correctly (i.e. the way Plan 9 is expecting them). so now i press the scroll button in X (Linux') drawterm, Plan 9 receives it on the other side and sends it via vncv back to the same machine, where a little firefox window scrolls. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 02:43:22 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 02:43:22 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DAD0963F8D for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:43:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4DC1063F87 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29880-01-12 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:42:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2EAC963F86 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:42:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <68faab3ea6d4c76d30d9cf3aae9177f0@plan9.ucalgary.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text paste from drawterm to X Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:42:48 -0700 From: andrey mirtchovski In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Thanks a lot for this. Just a curiosity though, why isn't > tolpin's vanishing character fix included? I've read it > slows drawterm down (i haven't had time to fiddle with it), > but if that's the only complaint can it be optionally turned > on with a flag? > > Thanks again! > > Sam i didn't include it because i thought it was going to be too big. that doesn't seem to be the case, so i may do it if enough people are interested. i don't get disappearing text at all so it doesn't really bother me all that much. for now the source is on the web -- if you get the patch in and think it doesn't slow you down you can send it to me. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 04:37:36 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 04:37:36 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD0B863D44 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:37:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6372FC365 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08702-01-87 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ensa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (ensa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca [136.159.2.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DF9B9C2B9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (imgw1 [136.159.5.9]) by ensa.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB6JZlxD004693 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:35:47 -0700 Received: from fbsd (fbsd [136.159.7.68]) by imgw1.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB6JZbS8015673 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:35:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:35:32 -0700 (MST) From: andrey mirtchovski To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] text paste from drawterm to X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1618459641-1944505085-1102361732=:27304" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---1618459641-1944505085-1102361732=:27304 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE incidentally, a fix required for pasting in the drawterm =E2=86=92 X direct= ion fixes pasting from non-terminal apps in the X =E2=86=92 drawterm direction. you can now select text in firefox and paste it to drawterm. now to fix copy/paste in vncv... ---1618459641-1944505085-1102361732=:27304-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 05:49:28 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 05:49:28 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5B01763E57 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:49:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 88D3563D5E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14330-01-30 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 962F063D3F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB6Li36f029419 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:44:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:44:03 -0500 (EST) From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] Drawterm vanishing font fix X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu It's atrocious. It's a hack. It should be removed at the earliest appearance of a true fix. ... but it works. Andrey has committed a patch to drawterm that basically performs David Tolpin's workaround from long ago as a flag (-b) so those of us with (as it seems) poorly written video drivers can enjoy fonts with drawterm. The b stands for 'broken stipple,' which as i understand it is the problem. Now, should I update the drawterm manpage to document it or is it so offensive as to be hidden from sight? Cheers, Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 05:56:25 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 05:56:25 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 35A4B63E20 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:56:23 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1388363DA0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14555-01-46 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.cegetel.net (mf01.sitadelle.com [212.94.174.78]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C93BE63D9F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from SOMA (213-223-62-150.dti.cegetel.net [213.223.62.150]) by smtp.cegetel.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D35EF37A9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:55:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <011a01c4dbd5$58e053b0$963edfd5@SOMA> From: "boyd, rounin" To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] Drawterm vanishing font fix Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:51:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > It's atrocious. It's a hack. It should be removed at > the earliest appearance of a true fix. QED From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 14:17:15 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 14:17:15 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B21F163DD8 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:16:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7A3942BA8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12468-01-9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-393d.silverbrookresearch.com (unknown [210.8.104.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 085D82BA3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:15:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from bebop.silverbrookresearch.com (bebop.silverbrookresearch.com [10.203.100.245]) by mx-393d.silverbrookresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FAA6D44E; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:15:40 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bebop.silverbrookresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489B2544F; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:15:39 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: [9fans] Connecting Non Plan 9 computers to the Internet via a Plan From: Andy Newman To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <6e35c06204112912027e6fe07d@mail.gmail.com> References: <32a656c204112722421dbdea32@mail.gmail.com> <20041129182115.GD1185@submarine> <6e35c06204112912027e6fe07d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:15:38 +1100 Message-Id: <1102396539.81662.11.camel@bebop.silverbrookresearch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Jack Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:21:15 -0800, Roman Shaposhnick wrote: > > I've always suspected that Mac OS X is "the UNIX for [teenage] girls". > > CHIX. http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/lg-chicks-dig.jpg From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 17:59:37 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 17:59:37 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0F1D863FE9 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:59:29 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3EE1D63DF1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25764-01-22 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from meddle.hq.iba.co.za (server.iba.co.za [196.30.44.140]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F24E363A1A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 03:58:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <038021ee700f4c13187b3e750f329d99@proxima.alt.za> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Lucio De Re Organization: Proxima Research & Development X-Mailer: Plan 9 ACME/Mail X-Disclaimer: Everything expressed is an opinion Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:03:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] plan9ports to NetBSD X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lucio De Re , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I can get most of the way there, but and sched_yield() concern me. The former seems quite unrelated to the 9ports altogether and the latter does not appear in NetBSD (1.6.1, nearly up to date) at all. Also, there are no (ffork rendez)^-NetBSD.c routines and in my ignorance I'm not sure which of Free- and Open-BSD is better suited (I think the "rendez-" are identical, mind you). For the record, I downloaded plan9-20040708.tar.gz which seems close to being the final word, if the web site is to be believed. All help welcome, I miss mk greatly. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 7 23:11:17 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 7 23:11:17 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C133163FCD for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:11:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 456A363965 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13528-01-17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C9E7363650 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:10:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 07:10:34 -0700 From: andrey mirtchovski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] drawterm-macosx X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Geoff has kindly compiled a drawterm for MacOSX 10.3.6 with the latest changes. The binary is on the same web page as the rest. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 02:09:42 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 02:09:42 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4AC5863D76 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:09:41 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42FA631E81 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:09:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26249-01-45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.186.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1E5EB31E6C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rcbilson@localhost) by plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (8.11.7/8.11.7) id iB7H9B711460 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:09:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:09:11 -0500 (EST) From: Richard C Bilson Message-Id: <200412071709.iB7H9B711460@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9ports to NetBSD X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > All help welcome, I miss mk greatly. Well, if that's all you miss, you can skip libthread and libdraw, since mk doesn't need them. If you want samterm or acme, though, that's a different story. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 02:24:25 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 02:24:25 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 23362C6731 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:23:46 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 19F7DAE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26249-01-71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:23:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from meddle.hq.iba.co.za (beam.iba.co.za [196.30.44.140]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A862963DD8 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:23:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9e280adf9e3948a53aa156bd4646c005@proxima.alt.za> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9ports to NetBSD From: Lucio De Re Organization: Proxima Research & Development X-Mailer: Plan 9 ACME/Mail X-Disclaimer: Everything expressed is an opinion Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 19:27:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200412071709.iB7H9B711460@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lucio De Re , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Well, if that's all you miss, you can skip libthread and libdraw, > since mk doesn't need them. > > If you want samterm or acme, though, that's a different story. Well, I eventually just removed the sched_yield()s and the #include from both lib9/lock.c and lib9/sleep.c (from memory) and now I have a working 'mk' and 'drawterm' (the latter a little scrappy, but workable) and a whole lot of other less tested P9 tools. Sure look good, but I prefer the real thing, when I can have it. If anyone wants the minor modifications I made to plan9ports and drawterm, please let me know. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 02:30:56 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 02:30:56 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D4B3963A39 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:30:53 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C1A7662F8A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26746-01-81 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D846262F8B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so96753wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 09:30:16 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eu9KONdc5Blt61j0SmTibtYvq3cB2l00IyjSmHiYwxIhLXitsxPwDiVUs3t4NCneuB8UN6QxMv4SKKJVnMHdEIDoNZWCRkDumGkfdXL5CKHIQ3cluLfHaTIBoJHUNnaN/+4ehdVmZStO10ytgOe4zBgOdRarhzOPhA7Hs1AaUnY= Received: by 10.54.53.6 with SMTP id b6mr16774wra; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 09:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.57.14 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:30:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:30:16 -0600 From: Eric Van Hensbergen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Okay, I'm a really bad person and didn't take any sort of good notes on things. I apologize in advance for omissions and misinterpretations. There was maybe a dozen or so people that attended the BoF, but we were fortunate to have lots of folks who have worked or are actively working on Plan 9. As far as new stuff, I think the most exciting piece was Ron's discussion (and demonstration) of his Xen Plan 9 port. Overall it seems much snappier than vmware and Ron is actively working to get the code released. In addition to the discussion and demo, there was some discussion on hypervisors, para-virtualization and why this is a good thing for Plan 9. I talked a bit about progress with v9fs (Linux support for 9P2000), and it seemed like the general consensus that this combined with Russ' plan9port applications are a really good thing. I also talked a bit about the stuff that I'm doing as part of my research - namely looking at using 9P to share resources between para-virtualized partitions. Ron Minnich talked a bit about 9grid along with talking about the status of DOE funding for 64-bit compilers and a 64-bit Opteron port. The short summary is there has been a bureaucratic snag with the funds - but hopefully it'll be straighted out real soon now and things can really get going. The general consensus on the 9grid stuff is it really needs someone to step up and kinda take ownership of doing some of the logistical overhead (setting up accounts, answering setup questions, etc.) Geoff told us a bit about 9netics and what they are working on. Sounds like he, Brucee, and Skip have found a way to be paid for working on Plan 9 stuff. As far as core Plan 9 progress goes - there seems to be a steady stream of patches and fixes going into the code. There are mechanisms to see what changes are going in on a day to day basis, but there is not always a good description of why the changes went in. I'm going to work on trying to come up with some sort of automated digest of the changes and post them to the plan9dev mailing list on a weekly basis. One of the biggest problem with the code at this point is that it has drifted out of sync with the documentation. If people are looking to help out, going over the documentation, man pages, and wiki and aligning them with reality would be a great service to the community. There was a little discussion on what happens when Lucent shuts off the lights. There seems to be a high level of confidence that all the vital pieces have been replicated by enough folks that we could have core community services (web, wiki, and more importantly sources) back up within a few days. We talked a bit about the FOAF/web-of-trust authentication model. And it seemed that folks thought that this was a bad idea. We really need to try using the existing centralized authentication facilities as a community. Let's not create problems that may or may not exist. That's about it. There was some other discussions, but memory is fuzzy. 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03:23:15 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 03:23:15 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 762B663A15 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:23:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AD918639B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00907-01-95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from holo.morphisms.net (holo.morphisms.net [66.93.84.55]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 927F0639C3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mero.morphisms.net (mero.morphisms.net [66.93.84.246]) by holo.morphisms.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5B024FD2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by mero.morphisms.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69D3327; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:22:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:22:42 -0500 From: William Josephson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9ports to NetBSD Message-ID: <20041207182242.GB21003@mero.morphisms.net> References: <038021ee700f4c13187b3e750f329d99@proxima.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <038021ee700f4c13187b3e750f329d99@proxima.alt.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-No-archive: yes X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:03:02AM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote: > I can get most of the way there, but > > and > sched_yield() > concern me. The former seems quite unrelated to the 9ports altogether > and the latter does not appear in NetBSD (1.6.1, nearly up to date) at > all. What do you mean by ``unrelated''? As I recall it is there so that the lock routines can yield the processor. I expect that sleep() is sufficient, but it is there for a reason. > For the record, I downloaded plan9-20040708.tar.gz which seems close > to being the final word, if the web site is to be believed. There has been additional work since, but that's the latest that is in a releasable state. I expect the next one to support FreeBSD 5.x and NetBSD 2 (assuming I have time). -WJ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 03:38:36 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 03:38:36 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 756AF63EFD for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:38:33 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B2A2063A43 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:38:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05638-01-24 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from epaphras.cnm-vra.com (adsl-66-122-178-130.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net [66.122.178.130]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 42323639BE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by epaphras.cnm-vra.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 441BF96; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:37:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:37:55 -0800 From: Micah Stetson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9ports to NetBSD Message-ID: <20041207183755.GA18071@epaphras> Mail-Followup-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <038021ee700f4c13187b3e750f329d99@proxima.alt.za> <20041207182242.GB21003@mero.morphisms.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041207182242.GB21003@mero.morphisms.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > > I can get most of the way there, but > > > > and > > sched_yield() > > concern me. The former seems quite unrelated to the 9ports altogether > > and the latter does not appear in NetBSD (1.6.1, nearly up to date) at > > all. > > What do you mean by ``unrelated''? As I recall it is there so that > the lock routines can yield the processor. I expect that sleep() is > sufficient, but it is there for a reason. I don't know if this will help, but in attempting an Inferno port to NetBSD a few months ago, replacing sched_yield() with sleep(0) did weird things to interactive performance. I don't recall the exact symptoms, but I remember it made the system (at least the GUI) a pain to use. At the time, I asked about alternatives on NetBSD's tech-kern mailing list and was told that sched_yield() was implemented in -current. http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-kern/2004/03/10/0019.html After that, my free time disappeared, so I haven't played with it since. Micah From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 05:13:34 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 05:13:34 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B2B8163FA4 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:13:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EC69663CA7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17573-01-16 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (cassie.foobarbaz.net [216.218.196.232]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CEE3563BE1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 24B9E66B50; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:12:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 12:12:58 -0800 From: Christopher Nielsen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary Message-ID: <20041207201258.GW44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I've been working on porting codecs and multimedia in general. It is mostly just audio, at this point, but I will probably be starting on video in the near future. Currently ported: libogg-1.1.2 libvorbis-1.1.0 flac-1.1.1 bladeenc-0.94.2 faac-1.24 oggenc I've poked around for a reasonable mp4 library in C and didn't find one, so I may write a native plan9 version. When I ripped and encoded my CD collection, I decided to use FLAC because it's lossless, so my music library is made up of whole CDs ripped and encoded in FLAC. As you can imagine, that's very cumbersome. I've been going through the process of splitting the albums into tracks, re-encoding them in ogg, and tagging the files. I have a (currently) rough rc script that does all of this automagically based on data from a cue sheet. I intend to add cddb/freedb support and parallelise it a bit such that you can give it a list of cpu servers and it will spread the encoding process across them. I also have plans for a streaming audio server akin to icecast or shoutcast. The nice part is it can probably be easily written as an rc script. I have quite a few other works-in-progress, but I don't really feel they're worth mentioning until I have more code. On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:30:16AM -0600, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > > > Okay, I'm a really bad person and didn't take any sort of good notes > on things. I apologize in advance for omissions and > misinterpretations. > > There was maybe a dozen or so people that attended the BoF, but we > were fortunate to have lots of folks who have worked or are actively > working on Plan 9. > > As far as new stuff, I think the most exciting piece was Ron's > discussion (and demonstration) of his Xen Plan 9 port. Overall it > seems much snappier than vmware and Ron is actively working to get the > code released. In addition to the discussion and demo, there was some > discussion on hypervisors, para-virtualization and why this is a good > thing for Plan 9. > > I talked a bit about progress with v9fs (Linux support for 9P2000), > and it seemed like the general consensus that this combined with Russ' > plan9port applications are a really good thing. > > I also talked a bit about the stuff that I'm doing as part of my > research - namely looking at using 9P to share resources between > para-virtualized partitions. > > Ron Minnich talked a bit about 9grid along with talking about the > status of DOE funding for 64-bit compilers and a 64-bit Opteron port. > The short summary is there has been a bureaucratic snag with the funds > - but hopefully it'll be straighted out real soon now and things can > really get going. > > The general consensus on the 9grid stuff is it really needs someone to > step up and kinda take ownership of doing some of the logistical > overhead (setting up accounts, answering setup questions, etc.) > > Geoff told us a bit about 9netics and what they are working on. > Sounds like he, Brucee, and Skip have found a way to be paid for > working on Plan 9 stuff. > > As far as core Plan 9 progress goes - there seems to be a steady > stream of patches and fixes going into the code. There are mechanisms > to see what changes are going in on a day to day basis, but there is > not always a good description of why the changes went in. I'm going > to work on trying to come up with some sort of automated digest of the > changes and post them to the plan9dev mailing list on a weekly basis. > > One of the biggest problem with the code at this point is that it has > drifted out of sync with the documentation. If people are looking to > help out, going over the documentation, man pages, and wiki and > aligning them with reality would be a great service to the community. > > There was a little discussion on what happens when Lucent shuts off > the lights. There seems to be a high level of confidence that all the > vital pieces have been replicated by enough folks that we could have > core community services (web, wiki, and more importantly sources) back > up within a few days. > > We talked a bit about the FOAF/web-of-trust authentication model. And > it seemed that folks thought that this was a bad idea. We really need > to try using the existing centralized authentication facilities as a > community. Let's not create problems that may or may not exist. > > That's about it. There was some other discussions, but memory is > fuzzy. Other folks that were there please feel free to fill in any of > the details I might have missed or misinterpreted. > > -eric > > > > -- > Christopher Nielsen > "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 08:02:49 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 08:02:49 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EEB7963CA7 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:02:43 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 16A72639FA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01573-02-84 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ALPHA6.ITS.MONASH.EDU.AU (alpha6.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.25]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 196F9639E1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([130.194.13.87]) by vaxc.its.monash.edu.au (PMDF V6.1 #39306) with ESMTP id <01LI5HC4XO5Y8WX97R@vaxc.its.monash.edu.au> for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 10:01:59 +1100 Received: from curly.its.monash.edu.au (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93953AB542 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 10:01:59 +1100 (EST) Received: from [130.194.3.169] (pc-949122.its.monash.edu.au [130.194.3.169]) (user ajft) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by curly.its.monash.edu.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7770D4FB03 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 10:01:59 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 10:01:59 +1100 From: Adrian Tritschler To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Message-id: <41B63667.2060602@ajft.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] plan9ports acme on SUSE linux X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu After "upgrading" a linux box from a Debian 2.4 to SUSE linux with kernel 2.6.5, acme no longer runs. Seems to be a problem with libthread on this configuration. I'm keeping the ports source up to date from CVS. % acme -W 1024x768 moribund 135274688 acme: sched.c:48: _schedinit: Assertion `t->moribund == 1' failed. 9pserve: convM2S failure Any ideas? Adrian From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 08:26:34 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 08:26:34 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 17D783191F for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:26:27 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 785E631675 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02971-01-94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 60DF431674 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from moria.ionkov.net ([68.36.169.182]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004120723254801500ibpjve>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 23:25:48 +0000 Received: by moria.ionkov.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9E64F462180; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:27:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:27:36 -0500 From: Latchesar Ionkov To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9ports acme on SUSE linux Message-ID: <20041207232736.GB12442@ionkov.net> References: <41B63667.2060602@ajft.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41B63667.2060602@ajft.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Try setting LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.19 export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL Lucho On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 10:01:59AM +1100, Adrian Tritschler said: > After "upgrading" a linux box from a Debian 2.4 to SUSE linux with > kernel 2.6.5, acme no longer runs. Seems to be a problem with libthread > on this configuration. > > I'm keeping the ports source up to date from CVS. > > % acme -W 1024x768 > moribund 135274688 > acme: sched.c:48: _schedinit: Assertion `t->moribund == 1' failed. > 9pserve: convM2S failure > > Any ideas? > Adrian From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 08:50:25 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 08:50:25 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B95563A54 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:50:22 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 78FC3C4C6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05018-01-25 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1D697C2B9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so369402wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:49:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=n7EoA+W5WEIcbeUmwaWtjK9Vtykyw7mwigI2A/54zrmuue8r/685Ff9oebo1IOYCxmo7aJAEmyh1ywRBkc6u3pteNipIVcmL11c0DiolBhR8PsurzLFpn+eTY7J8Iwuv91mK4VzhoqG6+fEvKZ4DSjy2kIzc1CTkc/8zZmqcBb0= Received: by 10.54.29.47 with SMTP id c47mr603868wrc; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.28.2 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:49:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e35c0620412071549569a7793@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:49:49 -0800 From: Jack Johnson To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:30:16 -0600, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > One of the biggest problem with the code at this point is that it has > drifted out of sync with the documentation. If people are looking to > help out, going over the documentation, man pages, and wiki and > aligning them with reality would be a great service to the community. My coding skills are sketchy at best and I don't have a ton of free time, but I would be more than willing to put in some time on the documentation, as long as someone else could follow behind me and ensure that I don't blaspheme or outright lie. Profanity is OK, though. -Jack From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 12:08:27 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 12:08:27 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2634A639B6 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:08:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5AC0631E75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21170-01-5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 0FCAE31E6B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:07:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 47692 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2004 03:07:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Dec 2004 03:07:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Dec 2004 03:07:54 -0000 Received: from valinore.titech.ac.jp by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id iB837sq273574; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:07:54 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <34839e35005785f6e5e55e46b8ac3d84@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <9.nashi@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:07:43 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] /dev/audio test file X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hi. I bought a USB audio. I think usbd and usbaudio is working because cat /dev/audioctl works ;). % nashi@valinore usb/usbd % nashi@valinore usb/usbaudio -v 100 warning: Can't set play speed % nashi@valinore cat /dev/audioctl speed out 48000 48000 48000 mute out 0 0 0 0 volume out 100 -11776 7168 512 channels out 2 2 2 resolution out 16 16 16 Yet, I don't have any good test file to feed to /dev/audio. Giving /mnt/cd/a000 didn't produce any sound on usb speakers. % cdfs % cat /mnt/cd/a000 > /dev/audio Could somebody give me a tiny file to feed to /dev/audio so that I can make sure that my speakers are configured correctly. Or is there a way to convert a??? files to /dev/audio format? Thanks in advance, -- Sincerely, YAMANASHI Takeshi From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 12:33:18 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 12:33:18 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DE662639FF for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:33:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0A29C31E3D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21449-01-40 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from plain.rackshack.net (unknown [207.44.192.47]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A0C3B31A2E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.infernopark.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by plain.rackshack.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iB88nnao024632 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:49:49 -0600 Received: from 69.115.255.175 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vdharani@infernopark.com) by www.infernopark.com with HTTP; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:49:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34582.69.115.255.175.1102495789.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> In-Reply-To: <34839e35005785f6e5e55e46b8ac3d84@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> References: <34839e35005785f6e5e55e46b8ac3d84@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 02:49:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file From: vdharani@infernopark.com To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi. I bought a USB audio. I think usbd and usbaudio is working > because cat /dev/audioctl works ;). > > % nashi@valinore usb/usbd > % nashi@valinore usb/usbaudio -v 100 > warning: Can't set play speed > % nashi@valinore cat /dev/audioctl > speed out 48000 48000 48000 > mute out 0 0 0 0 > volume out 100 -11776 7168 512 > channels out 2 2 2 > resolution out 16 16 16 > > Yet, I don't have any good test file to feed to /dev/audio. > Giving /mnt/cd/a000 didn't produce any sound on usb speakers. > > % cdfs > % cat /mnt/cd/a000 > /dev/audio > > Could somebody give me a tiny file to feed to /dev/audio so that > I can make sure that my speakers are configured correctly. > Or is there a way to convert a??? files to /dev/audio format? > one way to try it is to download plan 9 port of mad mp3 player and run it with an mp3 file. also, with madplay command you can convert an mp3 file to raw format which can be directly passed to /dev/audio. here is where you can find mad port: http://plan9.escet.urjc.es/plan9.html thanks dharani From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 12:38:53 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 12:38:53 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9219A63AA5 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:38:49 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8872C31E95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22277-01-49 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena.softcardsystems.com (mail.softcardsystems.com [12.34.136.114]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 94D0531E93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena (athena [12.34.136.114]) by athena.softcardsystems.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iB84XVFM006703 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 23:33:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 23:33:31 -0500 (EST) From: Sam X-X-Sender: sah@athena To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] plan9ports and freebsd 4.x X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hey, I've been using plan9ports on freebsd 4.x for a while now, but recently updated via cvs and can't compile lib9. 4.x distributes with gcc version 2.95.4, a non-c99 compiler; the new src/lib9/fmt/{fmtprint,fmtvprint}.c use va_copy, a c99 extension to stdarg. Is this a problem for anyone else? Cheers, Sam From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 12:47:32 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 12:47:32 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 76D3F62CD2 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:47:29 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3E50A31EB9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:47:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22277-01-71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from math.psu.edu (leibniz.math.psu.edu [146.186.130.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1996D31EB6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:46:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (augusta.math.psu.edu [146.186.132.2]) by math.psu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB83kvkC026142 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from augusta.math.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by augusta.math.psu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id iB83kvJ19980 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:46:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200412080346.iB83kvJ19980@augusta.math.psu.edu> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Dec 2004 02:49:49 CST." <34582.69.115.255.175.1102495789.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:46:57 -0500 From: Dan Cross X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu vdharani@infernopark.com writes: > one way to try it is to download plan 9 port of mad mp3 player and run it > with an mp3 file. also, with madplay command you can convert an mp3 file > to raw format which can be directly passed to /dev/audio. here is where > you can find mad port: http://plan9.escet.urjc.es/plan9.html I usually just cat'ed the audio tracks off of an audio CD.... I used to have a file with the Marine's Hymn in it, but I have no idea where it is anymore. :-) - Dan C. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 12:51:48 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 12:51:48 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C683F63AF7 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:51:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9A4E763989 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22277-01-82 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from meddle.hq.iba.co.za (beam.iba.co.za [196.30.44.140]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 511AD6397C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:51:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9ports to NetBSD From: Lucio De Re Organization: Proxima Research & Development X-Mailer: Plan 9 ACME/Mail X-Disclaimer: Everything expressed is an opinion Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 05:55:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20041207182242.GB21003@mero.morphisms.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lucio De Re , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > What do you mean by ``unrelated''? As I recall it is there so that > the lock routines can yield the processor. I expect that sleep() is > sufficient, but it is there for a reason. Oh, I meant that the NetBSD header file didn't have anything in it that resembled the use p9ports made of it. Just my ignorance, I have to admit. Of course, NetBSD and multiprocessing are still in their infancy. As you suggest, NetBSD 2 may well be a more interesting target. ++L From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 15:08:33 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 15:08:33 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 68D3063D41 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:08:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 09B2A63A14 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00013-01-75 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EB70C3193B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so326325rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:07:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=naEv+VIddCkUJKjknkG3a6JJjcf8C7k7sLZolrInYU0sL4NxHjzQyCGzu2yNFCIydQ0L6PXhKkjdtMCDw17LNCjBeOln8d98DeqIELJnrePPa1AaysuqABAU29xkcL7dwvH2dCSI+Uji2Jbhls+yuyN6yZs2zXgbVJ0Vd4VXf8w= Received: by 10.38.186.1 with SMTP id j1mr690909rnf; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 22:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.104.34 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Dec 2004 22:07:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:07:53 -0500 From: Russ Cox To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file In-Reply-To: <34839e35005785f6e5e55e46b8ac3d84@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <34839e35005785f6e5e55e46b8ac3d84@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Russ Cox , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Giving /mnt/cd/a000 didn't produce any sound on usb speakers. my bet is on the volume. a000 is already in "/dev/audio format" though you might want to turn the speed down to 44100 in audioctl. russ From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 15:44:24 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 15:44:24 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ADC1DB04F for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:44:11 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5AF3A63B7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00127-01-94 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 3D22C63A4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 01:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14932 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2004 06:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 8 Dec 2004 06:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Dec 2004 06:43:37 -0000 Received: from valinore.titech.ac.jp by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id iB86haq289216; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:43:36 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <964fd089a821b1fb2fb1cabe6f514e01@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <9.nashi@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:43:30 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > my bet is on the volume. a000 is already in "/dev/audio format" > though you might want to turn the speed down to 44100 in audioctl. Thanks all. I see. I should have had the speakers giving noises at least... madplayer was the same: speakers were silent at all. My usb configuration should be the problem, then. As I have tested this on rather old 4th ed, I will try it with the modern 4th ed. -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 22:28:30 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 22:28:30 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 9B0CC63D41 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:28:17 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A7C2831E9C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19447-02-33 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (outside.cs.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A313131E4F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com ([68.44.2.93]) by plan9; Wed Dec 8 08:27:49 EST 2004 Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:27:47 -0500 From: Sape Mullender In-Reply-To: <34582.69.115.255.175.1102495789.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >> % cdfs >> % cat /mnt/cd/a000 > /dev/audio This should work, provided, /dev/usb?/ep?data (appropriate values for the question marks) is bound to /dev/audio. Make sure you run cat in the environment in which you started usbaudio From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 8 22:50:59 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Wed Dec 8 22:50:59 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A757363D60 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:50:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0EC9663AD0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19447-02-85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.193]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D63D263A6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a36so450354rnf for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 05:50:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=WBT25QWFizAGtCGKrwHbCVVKpXzsWQXgM274wHK8zqBAPSMqYi5GTk0U1tXA1hj+NqHI+D3YfreAEPZ7h3NyxwMo1KV/Wyp1eo66FqY8D5jPObI9MAGnRjatXdKBRMXtsYiCQWpphybzRwaUyfqYyyidvxJ8gS/ljLSMeIlV2eU= Received: by 10.38.70.14 with SMTP id s14mr6672rna; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 05:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.46 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 05:50:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32a656c20412080550b4fb8f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:50:23 +0900 From: Vester Thacker To: Jack Johnson , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary In-Reply-To: <6e35c0620412071549569a7793@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <6e35c0620412071549569a7793@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:49:49 -0800, Jack Johnson wrote: > but I would be more than willing to put in some time on the > documentation, as long as someone else could follow behind me and > ensure that I don't blaspheme or outright lie. 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I would like to help with documentation. -vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 03:01:54 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 03:01:54 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 37ED9C6732 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:01:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 71E5163C1A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15458-01-65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4B1DB63B44 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so771240wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=V+68xdNbpmIGnwl4aOCOSCjdFs9CfctZBe/3cX2pLlgeczmBrcOOd4QaF9364PDWfF/+4ZRYH6FkcWNT7R2VOK3l9PKf5fIFQUH9HsDpp3eEqMIVHo65647DPzUIQ6pjzzopLrfsuj+voznivk9zhVbpFGEEz4/jKr9WtTJkzgs= Received: by 10.54.46.79 with SMTP id t79mr74479wrt; Wed, 08 Dec 2004 09:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.48.25 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:54:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:54:18 -0500 From: "Scheinberg, Adam" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu In-Reply-To: <20041208170039.88EA55F9E@mail.cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041208170039.88EA55F9E@mail.cse.psu.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] Re: 9fans Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11 X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Scheinberg, Adam" , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hi everyone. I'm new to this group, so I just wanted to take a second to figure out if it's right for me. Looking over the recent postings, I see a bunch of fairly technical questions. I'm relatively new to Plan 9, I found it because I've been interested in Operating Systems for some time and Plan 9 seems to have some interesting technology. I've read about it for the year or so, and am intrigued. I'd like to learn more about Plan9 and how and why people are using it, but at least right now, not overly interested in getting too specific. I'm definitely a newbie to this environment. Is this a group where I might learn a little, or is it primarily support for experienced "9fans?" Thanks all, -- Adam Scheinberg ascheinberg@gmail.com From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 03:14:22 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 03:14:22 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C756F63DB8 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:14:20 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F23963B4F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15454-01-93 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.aprote.ee (ns.aprote.ee [80.235.78.106]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E294C63AD9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: Message by Barricade ns.aprote.ee with ESMTP id iB8IDlH1005829 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:13:47 +0200 Received: from tiitl.aprote.com ([192.168.1.32]) by black.aprote.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:13:46 +0200 To: "Scheinberg, Adam" , "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: 9fans Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11 References: <20041208170039.88EA55F9E@mail.cse.psu.edu> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:13:46 +0200 From: "Tiit Lankots" Organization: Aprote Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54 (Win32, build 3865) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2004 18:13:46.0986 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8F3DCA0:01C4DD51] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I'm definitely a newbie to this environment. Is this a group where I > might learn a little, or is it primarily support for experienced > "9fans?" It's the latter. It's the former. It's the swiss army knife of all things Plan 9. It's all you've got. Thoughtwork and experimenting welcome. Stupid questions are generally just ignored ;) I can tell you from first hand experience that Plan 9 can be successfully installed and used without asking much about anyhing here. It's all out there - in the man pages and papers, in the wiki. It's a wonderful yourney; don't spoil it. Give it a chance. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 03:15:25 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 03:15:25 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DB2D863C88 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:15:23 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 52CD863C6E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15454-01-95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id F060D63BFE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:14:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: 9fans Digest, Vol 8, Issue 11 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:14:48 -0700 From: andrey mirtchovski In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu 9fans is for everything and everyone. Please avoid questions about licensing and related issues :) The wiki linked from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist is a good place to start if you're just interested in browsing and general information about the OS. andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 07:56:26 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 07:56:26 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1DD2C63FFB for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:56:17 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C4A2063AFC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09543-01-55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx-393d.silverbrookresearch.com (unknown [210.8.104.82]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B3C5F63A3B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from bebop.silverbrookresearch.com (bebop.silverbrookresearch.com [10.203.100.245]) by mx-393d.silverbrookresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A686D49A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:55:45 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bebop.silverbrookresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B6C5476 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:55:44 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: [9fans] plan9ports and freebsd 4.x From: Andy Newman To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:55:44 +1100 Message-Id: <1102546544.80884.0.camel@bebop.silverbrookresearch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Is this a problem for anyone else? Yes. I have various gcc 3.x's installed via the ports so changed 9c to use gcc33. 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DD7B.826E5040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I'm new to plan9 and i'm using the 9term for w32 to do some automation at work. Neither Bash for w32 or cygwin allowed me to work with files on several network shares/local drives in my scripts easily. But for my surprise, while trying out the plan9 for w32 (that i got just to toy with acme) i found out that it behaves very well. Now, i just need to tweak some things, if possible. First, i'm afraid i'm to spoiled by bash to like the just-a-text-flow thing for now... mainly, i like to browse previous commands when i press the up arrow. Is it possible? Seccond, i fell nude without my current path :) I have no clue how to change prompt enviroment var to show it. Any hints? Thanks! 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Hi,

I'm new to plan9 and i'm using the 9term for w32 to = do some automation at work.

Neither Bash for w32 or cygwin allowed me to work = with files on several network shares/local drives in my scripts easily. = But for my surprise, while trying out the plan9 for w32 (that i got = just to toy with acme) i found out that it behaves very = well.

Now, i just need to tweak some things, if = possible.

First, i'm afraid i'm to spoiled by bash to like the = just-a-text-flow thing for now... mainly, i like to browse previous = commands when i press the up arrow. Is it possible?

Seccond, i fell nude without my current path = :)
I have no clue how to change prompt enviroment var = to show it.

Any hints?

Thanks!
Gabriel

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DD7B.826E5040-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 10:54:22 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 10:54:22 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 73216B67C for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:53:40 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1AD8163BC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20055-01-61 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1878763B54 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 20:53:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0726e041132290767a478fa8f4ef16a8@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: cnielsen@pobox.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:55:05 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20041207201258.GW44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I've poked around for a reasonable mp4 library in C > and didn't find one, so I may write a native plan9 > version. MPlayer-1.0pre5 has it. I know this because I had to play around to see Vester's movie of Rob at Tokyo.=E2=98=BA He must have used Mac to produce that mp4 movie. I tried first my T42, Oh! saddly it's going not the product of IBM, but someone in China. If I knew it before, I never bought T42! Anyway, I had thought WinXP must have everything what we can do on PC, however, that's MediaPlayer could not do it, then, I tried Linux, and either could not. Then, I tired the newest version of MPlayer, and then, I could see that Rob's movie on mt Linux box... Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 11:00:54 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 11:00:54 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6A48763DD8 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:00:47 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4DECCB913 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20057-01-65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (fs6.mbmnz.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 3F0D7B50E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 3774 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2004 02:00:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mollywuppy.monitorbm.co.nz) (192.168.0.41) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 9 Dec 2004 02:00:13 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.2.0.0.20041209145619.01ba7580@pop.monitorbm.co.nz> X-Sender: andrew.simmons@monitorbm.co.nz@pop.monitorbm.co.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.2.0 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 14:59:09 +1300 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> From: Andrew Simmons Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary In-Reply-To: <0726e041132290767a478fa8f4ef16a8@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac .jp> References: <20041207201258.GW44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> <0726e041132290767a478fa8f4ef16a8@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >Anyway, I had thought WinXP must have everything what we can do >on PC, however, that's MediaPlayer could not do it, then, I tried Linux, >and either could not. Then, I tired the newest version of MPlayer, and >then, I could see that Rob's movie on mt Linux box... > >Kenji Quicktime for Windows, available as a free download from www.apple.com, will let you play MP4 files on WinXP. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 11:18:24 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 11:18:24 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7820631E65 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:18:23 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0F1AC318C1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22953-01-15 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B797F318B7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:17:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <46c6ada0c5447393a45e2d3ce638ff18@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:19:52 +0900 In-Reply-To: <6.0.2.0.0.20041209145619.01ba7580@pop.monitorbm.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Quicktime for Windows, available as a free download from www.apple.com,= =20 > will let you play MP4 files on WinXP. I checked it, too, and found two versions for free and product. And then, I avoided them. Next I tried Inter Video DVD(?) which works as a plugin for Windows Media Player. I chose it. This is because I'd li= ke=20 to be most lazy for WinXP, which means one soft for one kind of task.=E2=98= =BA Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 11:43:11 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 11:43:11 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CE30B31E71 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:43:09 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 28BA2318FE for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:42:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22953-01-87 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (cassie.foobarbaz.net [216.218.196.232]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1D248318CF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3495066B89; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:42:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:42:38 -0800 From: Christopher Nielsen To: Kenji Okamoto Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary Message-ID: <20041209024238.GE44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: <20041207201258.GW44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 10:55:05AM +0900, Kenji Okamoto wrote: > > I've poked around for a reasonable mp4 library in C > > and didn't find one, so I may write a native plan9 > > version. > > MPlayer-1.0pre5 has it. Actually, it doesn't. It can decode and parse an mp4 stream, but it cannot create or modify an mp4 container. The only libraries I've seen are libmp4v2 from mpeg4ip, which is what faac uses, and quicktime4linux, which while written in C is a really ugly interface. -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 12:38:14 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 12:38:14 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3F51C63B54 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:38:11 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4F67131E71 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27647-01-53 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:37:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8D2E131E59 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:37:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:39:41 +0900 In-Reply-To: <20041209024238.GE44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > Actually, it doesn't. It can decode and parse an mp4 > stream, but it cannot create or modify an mp4 container. > > The only libraries I've seen are libmp4v2 from mpeg4ip, > which is what faac uses, and quicktime4linux, which > while written in C is a really ugly interface. By the way, are you going to create movie/sound editting software for Plan 9? I suppose it must be a very big project... 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And which document format is preferred? -vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 19:36:06 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 19:36:06 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6824B3191D for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:36:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5BCE031791 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24254-01-18 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lavoro.terzarima.net (spc1-york1-5-0-cust142.seac.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 37031C500 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:35:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: vester.thacker@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Updating man pages and other documents. 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X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+forsyth=terzarima.net@cse.psu.edu I am writing this concerning updating the manual pages and other documents. To whom should we send the updates to? And which document format is preferred? -vester --upas-zbifofeqlmzqcgnrlbfmeedfek-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 19:38:00 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 19:38:00 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 36B5C63979 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:37:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 81B2231791 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24254-01-22 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.freeshell.org [192.94.73.21]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 132B518FB1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:dudzus@xm.freeshell.org [192.94.73.22]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB9AbVGi010764; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:37:31 GMT Received: (from dudzus@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.12.10/8.12.8/Submit) id iB9AbUcx018987; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:37:30 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:37:30 +0100 From: Heiko Dudzus To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Updating man pages and other documents. Message-ID: <20041209103730.GA11609@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <32a656c204120902161fc19bd2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <32a656c204120902161fc19bd2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Vester Thacker wrote: > I am writing this concerning updating the manual pages and other documents. > To whom should we send the updates to? And which document format is preferred? If you made changes to your local system, you can use the patch(1) tools to put them onto sources. Document format for man pages is man macros for troff/nroff. It is decribed in man(6). From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 19:44:22 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 19:44:22 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C14616397E for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:44:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 38BA931926 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24255-01-5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lavoro.terzarima.net (spc1-york1-5-0-cust142.seac.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.45.142]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 127A33191D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 05:43:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27feb7e60ba1af830a02f57505bcce8b@terzarima.net> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Updating man pages and other documents. From: Charles Forsyth Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:36:53 0000 In-Reply-To: <20041209103730.GA11609@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu also see /sys/man/mkfile and /sys/doc/mkfile (and mkfiles in subdirectories). the latter generates .ps and .pdf files from troff as required. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 20:42:01 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 20:42:01 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AC526639A5 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 06:41:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B1740318A5 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 06:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25939-01-81 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 06:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8F71431791 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 06:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so473375rne for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:41:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=obFJGUpGY/4TMCKAaspagVUmT/BV/A7DDCzuO0U77cxxGqlzyHuf6kiHI2XBYBkW6OYIhJQcr5Z+316UHg+lyv6znZM+q/gdQV9jVwy38O/wcgHQgIApIVD9UyFc23LHF2VI+HJng7vRjz1ZV40YOn/m3FQzZBUmuYUQQ9cJ0eQ= Received: by 10.38.150.8 with SMTP id x8mr1109956rnd; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.89.46 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 03:40:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32a656c20412090340213697b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 20:40:30 +0900 From: Vester Thacker To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Updating man pages and other documents. In-Reply-To: <27feb7e60ba1af830a02f57505bcce8b@terzarima.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041209103730.GA11609@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <27feb7e60ba1af830a02f57505bcce8b@terzarima.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Vester Thacker , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:36:53 0000, Charles Forsyth wrote: > also see /sys/man/mkfile and /sys/doc/mkfile (and mkfiles in subdirectories). > the latter generates .ps and .pdf files from troff as required. Charles and Heiko, thank you for the help. -vester From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 9 21:31:57 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Thu Dec 9 21:31:57 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3407663A31 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:31:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3F54031E6C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26506-01-12 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6EC9F31E65 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [217.117.76.18] (port=1146 helo=pc) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CcNRr-000FIu-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 15:31:07 +0300 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 18:15:30 +0200 From: Sergey Reva X-Mailer: The Bat! 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Its not a beautiful implementation which is why I haven't submitted it as a patch, however its enough to get our shiny new win2k3 DNS server to acknowledge my existence. -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 00:06:37 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 00:06:37 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 23BF663C0B for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:06:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5679263AA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05287-01-98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0A9E763ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [217.117.76.8] (port=1037 helo=pc) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CcPmw-000MQ0-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:01:02 +0300 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:59:39 +0200 From: Sergey Reva X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <484152100.20041209165939@mail.ru> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] missing man pages X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey Reva , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Hello 9fans Where can I get information for writing servers (and drivers too) in Plan 9. I see devdup.c but i can't find man pages for devdir, and other function. I see ramfs.c but it too big for sample, maybe someone have more simple service (devdup.c it's really simple driver). -- http://rs-rlab.narod.ru mailto:rs_rlab@mail.ru From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 00:11:40 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 00:11:40 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DB2F663D61 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:11:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4506263B27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14385-03-9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from sargazos.escet.urjc.es (sargazos.escet.urjc.es [212.128.4.206]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C777C63AA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:10:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7551b43c65ef9f246c24bb4f532aa501@plan9.escet.urjc.es> To: rs_rlab@mail.ru, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] missing man pages From: "Fco. J. Ballesteros" Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:10:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <484152100.20041209165939@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="upas-wzykmhaaxbloicbbbzdxfnwocz" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --upas-wzykmhaaxbloicbbbzdxfnwocz Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 9p (section 5) is a good reference regarding what the kernel may ask a driver to perform (drivers are 9p servers). There is no manual for the kernel interface for device drivers. This could perhaps deserve a section in the manual, but it's missing. hth --upas-wzykmhaaxbloicbbbzdxfnwocz Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by aquamar; Thu Dec 9 16:06:16 MET 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 17F4163B62 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:06:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5679263AA2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05287-01-98 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.mail.ru (mx1.mail.ru [194.67.23.121]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0A9E763ADA for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [217.117.76.8] (port=1037 helo=pc) by mx1.mail.ru with esmtp id 1CcPmw-000MQ0-00 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 18:01:02 +0300 Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:59:39 +0200 From: Sergey Reva X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.00.6) CD5BF9353B3B7091 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <484152100.20041209165939@mail.ru> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] missing man pages X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sergey Reva , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+nemo=lsub.org@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+nemo=lsub.org@cse.psu.edu Hello 9fans Where can I get information for writing servers (and drivers too) in Plan 9. I see devdup.c but i can't find man pages for devdir, and other function. I see ramfs.c but it too big for sample, maybe someone have more simple service (devdup.c it's really simple driver). -- http://rs-rlab.narod.ru mailto:rs_rlab@mail.ru --upas-wzykmhaaxbloicbbbzdxfnwocz-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 01:15:02 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 01:15:02 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B760663B81 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:14:52 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 698E73172C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14466-01-76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.vitanuova.com (unknown [213.146.155.10]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1D4CBC75A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:14:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <900623b75bfe66d11cda008ebf744140@vitanuova.com> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] missing man pages From: C H Forsyth Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:15:12 0000 In-Reply-To: <7551b43c65ef9f246c24bb4f532aa501@plan9.escet.urjc.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >>There is no manual for the kernel interface for device drivers. we did some for Inferno in section 10 for the common interfaces or functions, which will be close, even when the wording isn't wonderful, but they are still not a substitute for an overview paper, describing things such as overall structure and conventions, and important things such as reference counting, why/when/how to lock, when to waserror(), ... From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 03:25:31 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 03:25:31 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D6AD063A25 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:25:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E163031733 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25950-01-55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from epaphras.cnm-vra.com (adsl-66-122-178-130.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net [66.122.178.130]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6C9CC3172A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by epaphras.cnm-vra.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A92699; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:24:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:24:51 -0800 From: Micah Stetson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9term customization Message-ID: <20041209182451.GB6041@epaphras> Mail-Followup-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE5@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE5@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > trying out the plan9 for w32 (that i got just to toy with acme) i found out Where is this? I thought the only acme for Windows was in Inferno. Has somebody ported plan9ports? That would be great. > First, i'm afraid i'm to spoiled by bash to like the just-a-text-flow thing > for now... mainly, i like to browse previous commands when i press the up > arrow. Is it possible? I don't think so. Most of us edit/reuse old commands using the mouse in the 9term window. Under Plan 9, you can grep for things in /dev/text, and several scripts have been posted here before to do just that. I don't think that works under the ports, though. > Seccond, i fell nude without my current path :) > I have no clue how to change prompt enviroment var to show it. I think you want something like this: fn cd { builtin cd $1; prompt=(`{pwd}^'% ' ' ') } Micah From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 03:40:54 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 03:40:54 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8267D63B41 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:40:50 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 91E0563A00 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25950-01-85 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.foobarbaz.net (cassie.foobarbaz.net [216.218.196.232]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 96E19639F2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.foobarbaz.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9C05466B89; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:40:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 10:40:19 -0800 From: Christopher Nielsen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9/Inferno Birds of a Feather at OSDI: Summary Message-ID: <20041209184019.GF44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> References: <20041209024238.GE44345@cassie.foobarbaz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com, Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu That is my long-term goal, yes. On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:39:41PM +0900, Kenji Okamoto wrote: > > By the way, are you going to create movie/sound editting software > for Plan 9? I suppose it must be a very big project... -- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 03:49:17 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 03:49:17 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E3F8963B54 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:49:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 27FE463AAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25968-01-97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com (sandman1.uolinc.com [200.221.4.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DF6B663AB9 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF5BD065 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:52:36 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sandman1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06340-10 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:52:36 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet (sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet [192.168.206.101]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45290D015 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:52:36 -0300 (BRT) Received: by sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:46:50 -0200 Message-ID: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE6@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> From: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros To: 'Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs' <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] 9term customization Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:46:38 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE1F.6AACABB0" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE1F.6AACABB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Micah Stetson [mailto:micah@cnm-vra.com] > > trying out the plan9 for w32 (that i got just to toy with acme) i found out > Where is this? I thought the only acme for Windows was > in Inferno. Has somebody ported plan9ports? That would > be great. To be honest, i got this some months ago, just before i installed plan9 distro at home. And only now i'm back to using it. so i don't realy remember where i got it :) Here's the readme.txt: ------------------------ This directory contains a Windows port of a number of plan 9 utilities, including an updated version of the sam text editor. This version of sam supports the -r option using ssh as the remote execution protocol. Source is included. It should be possible to rebuild the tools from the source, but it will probably require some work. In particular, the source is mostly built using version 4.2 of Visual C++. The source was ported using a plan 9 emulation library called 9pm, which completely replaces the standard libc library included with the compilers. The remote execution command srx and the libraries mp and libsec are compiled with Version 6.0. This source does not use the 9pm library. Most of these tools are rather out of date. Only a small number of changes have been made since 1997. Maintenance and updating of these tools is left as an exercise to the reader. Note: this code is released under the Plan 9 open source license agreement. Enjoy Sean Quinlan ---------------------------- > > > > Seccond, i fell nude without my current path :) > > I have no clue how to change prompt enviroment var to show it. > > I think you want something like this: > > fn cd { builtin cd $1; prompt=(`{pwd}^'% ' ' ') } I don't quite understand that. I tryied simply entering it into rcsh and it did nothing. then i entered just "prompt=(`{pwd}^'% ' ' ')" and then rcsh crashed. > > Micah Thanks Gabriel ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE1F.6AACABB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [9fans] 9term customization

> From: Micah Stetson [mailto:micah@cnm-vra.com]
> > trying out the plan9 for w32 (that i got = just to toy with acme) i found out
> Where is this?  I thought the only acme = for Windows was
> in Inferno.  Has somebody ported = plan9ports?  That would
> be great.

To be honest, i got this some months ago, just before = i installed plan9 distro at home. And only now i'm back to using it. so = i don't realy remember where i got it :) Here's the = readme.txt:

------------------------
This directory contains a Windows port of a number = of plan 9 utilities,
including an updated version of the sam text editor. = This version of
sam supports the -r option using ssh as the remote = execution protocol.

Source is included.  It should be possible to = rebuild the
tools from the source, but it will probably require = some work.
In particular, the source is mostly built using = version 4.2 of
Visual C++. The source was ported using a plan 9 = emulation
library called 9pm, which completely replaces the = standard
libc library included with the compilers.

The remote execution command srx and the libraries mp = and libsec
are compiled with Version 6.0.  This source = does not use the 9pm library.

Most of these tools are rather out of date.  = Only a small number of changes
have been made since 1997.  Maintenance and = updating of these tools is
left as an exercise to the reader.

Note: this code is released under the Plan 9 open = source license agreement.

Enjoy
Sean Quinlan
----------------------------


>
>
> > Seccond, i fell nude without my current = path :)
> > I have no clue how to change prompt = enviroment var to show it.
>
> I think you want something like this:
>
> fn cd { builtin cd $1; prompt=3D(`{pwd}^'% ' = '  ') }

I don't quite understand that.
I tryied simply entering it into rcsh and it did = nothing. then i entered just "prompt=3D(`{pwd}^'% ' = '    ')" and then rcsh crashed.

>
> Micah

Thanks
Gabriel

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE1F.6AACABB0-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 04:47:16 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 04:47:16 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8950563C0C for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:47:12 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4091131870 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04579-01-39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.ucalgary.ca (unknown [136.159.220.110]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E34A831733 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:46:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6d10c762963afeb1fc8f184e3ed921ce@plan9.ucalgary.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:46:29 -0700 From: andrey mirtchovski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char E2 hex) in message header 'Subject' Subject: drawterm \342\206\222 non-xterm co... ^ Subject: [9fans] =?iso-8859-1?q?drawterm_=E2=86=92_non-xterm_copy/paste?= X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu following Russ Cox' suggestion to integrate plan9port's copy/paste in drawterm I have put the new source and binaries (linux and freebsd only, geoff would probably send a MaxOSX one soon) on the web. the new binaries allow text selected in drawterm to be pasted correctly to non-xterm applications in X. that means you can paste from drawterm to firefox or opera. http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~mirtchov/p9 andrey From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 06:14:51 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 06:14:51 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1574A63B50 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:14:45 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 92C7463AAF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15100-01-4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:14:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (mail.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 4509563A27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20068 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2004 21:14:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mollywuppy.monitorbm.co.nz) (192.168.0.41) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 9 Dec 2004 21:14:08 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.2.0.0.20041210100557.01b8b0e8@pop.monitorbm.co.nz> X-Sender: andrew.simmons@monitorbm.co.nz@pop.monitorbm.co.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.2.0 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:13:03 +1300 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> From: Andrew Simmons Subject: RE: [9fans] 9term customization In-Reply-To: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE6@siamun.server.bl. corp.intranet> References: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE6@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > >To be honest, i got this some months ago, just before i installed plan9 >distro at home. And only now i'm back to using it. so i don't realy >remember where i got it :) Here's the readme.txt: That would be the port of the second edition tools, which as far as I know doesn't include acme. On the up-arrow thing, I used to find it disconcerting at first, but now I wouldn't want to go back. It's really liberating to be able to use the whole area of the 9term window as a scratchpad in which to assemble commands, highlight them, and execute using the right mouse button and "send" command. Try it a bit more, and you might get to love it. I don't know about the prompt - I prefer it without the path, which takes up most of the line these days, especially if, which God forbid, you're in a directory called "c:\documents and settings\myaccountwithaverylongname\my recent documents\sod this for a game of soldiers". From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 06:23:44 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 06:23:44 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E8B24639CF for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:23:42 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id D044B639C1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:23:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07604-01-95 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com (sandman1.uolinc.com [200.221.4.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C32DA31892 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99531D06B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:27:07 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sandman1.uolinc.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sandman1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13656-09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:27:06 -0300 (BRT) Received: from sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet (sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet [192.168.206.101]) by sandman1.uolinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA43AD08D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:27:06 -0300 (BRT) Received: by sahure.server.bl.corp.intranet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:21:20 -0200 Message-ID: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE7@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> From: Gabriel Cosentino de Barros To: 'Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs' <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: RE: [9fans] 9term customization Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:21:07 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE34.FF6DD430" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE34.FF6DD430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Andrew Simmons [mailto:andrew.simmons@monitorbm.co.nz] > >To be honest, i got this some months ago, just before i installed plan9 > >distro at home. And only now i'm back to using it. so i don't realy > >remember where i got it :) Here's the readme.txt: > That would be the port of the second edition tools, which as far as I know > doesn't include acme. hum.. true... what's the acme thingy i'm running here? maybe it's inferno indeed. It's just that after i instaled those things the workload just got high. > On the up-arrow thing, I used to find it disconcerting at first, but now I > wouldn't want to go back. It's really liberating to be able to use the > whole area of the 9term window as a scratchpad in which to assemble > commands, highlight them, and execute using the right mouse button and > "send" command. Try it a bit more, and you might get to love it. yeah, that way is not all that bad. I was snarfing, pasting, clicking on the end, pressing return. but i still think that that taking the hands off the keyboard is pointless here. maybe something like csh's !! and history would do the trick... > I don't know about the prompt - I prefer it without the path, which takes > up most of the line these days, especially if, which God forbid, you're in but if you really need to know the path, not having it in the prompt (or how i set my xterms, in the window title) is a little dangerous while doing ten things at a time... specialy if you have memory like mine :) Gabriel ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE34.FF6DD430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [9fans] 9term customization

> From: Andrew Simmons [mailto:andrew.simmons@mon= itorbm.co.nz]
> >To be honest, i got this some months ago, = just before i installed plan9
> >distro at home. And only now i'm back to = using it. so i don't realy
> >remember where i got it :) Here's the = readme.txt:
> That would be the port of the second edition = tools, which as far as I know
> doesn't include acme.

hum.. true... what's the acme thingy i'm running = here? maybe it's inferno indeed. It's just that after i instaled those = things the workload just got high.

> On the up-arrow thing, I used to find it = disconcerting at first, but now I
> wouldn't want to go back. It's really = liberating to be able to use the
> whole area of the 9term window as a scratchpad = in which to assemble
> commands, highlight them, and execute using the = right mouse button and
> "send" command. Try it a bit more, = and you might get to love it.

yeah, that way is not all that bad. I was snarfing, = pasting, clicking on the end, pressing return. but i still think that = that taking the hands off the keyboard is pointless here. maybe = something like csh's !! and history would do the trick...

 
> I don't know about the prompt - I prefer it = without the path, which takes
> up most of the line these days, especially if, = which God forbid, you're in

but if you really need to know the path, not having = it in the prompt (or how i set my xterms, in the window title) is a = little dangerous while doing ten things at a time... specialy if you = have memory like mine :)


Gabriel

------_=_NextPart_001_01C4DE34.FF6DD430-- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 06:53:04 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 06:53:04 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 830F663EDE for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:53:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3B8C063D61 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13195-01-76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from babingka.lava.net (babingka.lava.net [64.65.64.26]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EE3A563D4C for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by babingka.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0321E13424 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:52:31 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 11:52:31 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9term customization In-Reply-To: <20041209182451.GB6041@epaphras> Message-ID: References: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE5@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> <20041209182451.GB6041@epaphras> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > > Seccond, i fell nude without my current path :) > > I have no clue how to change prompt enviroment var to show it. > > I think you want something like this: > > fn cd { builtin cd $1; prompt=(`{pwd}^'% ' ' ') } I'm not sure why this isnt setup by default (actually, it seems to be in plan9port stuff) but acme is much more useful with: fn cd { builtin cd $1 && awd $sysname } (as mentioned in the acme man page). This provides the benefits of seeing the path (in the acme title bar) as well as providing path context for the clicks. I'm sure this is old hat for most people, but I just came across this recently and I imagine that means there are other people who are using acme without it (ack!). > Micah Tim N. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 08:50:53 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 08:50:53 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8649EB525 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:50:07 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id EEBAC63B68 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19260-01-55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.monitorbm.co.nz (www.monitorbm.co.nz [203.167.201.38]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 2DE6563A9A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23682 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2004 23:49:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mollywuppy.monitorbm.co.nz) (192.168.0.41) by mail.monitorbm.co.nz with SMTP; 9 Dec 2004 23:49:28 -0000 Message-Id: <6.0.2.0.0.20041210124458.01b8afa0@pop.monitorbm.co.nz> X-Sender: andrew.simmons@monitorbm.co.nz@pop.monitorbm.co.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.2.0 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:48:23 +1300 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> From: Andrew Simmons Subject: RE: [9fans] 9term customization In-Reply-To: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE7@siamun.server.bl. corp.intranet> References: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE7@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > >yeah, that way is not all that bad. I was snarfing, pasting, clicking on >the end, pressing return. but i still think that that taking the hands off >the keyboard is pointless here. maybe something like csh's !! and history >would do the trick... If 9term doesn't suit the way you want to work, you could look at Uwin (Boyd reaches for ...): http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/ This has the Korn shell, which includes all of the history editing a person could want and then some. Local and network drives appear as directories under /, which could solve your problems with bash/Cygwin. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 09:47:06 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 09:47:06 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1D33E63D4C for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:46:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1012363B09 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:46:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24277-01-17 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from epaphras.cnm-vra.com (adsl-66-122-178-130.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net [66.122.178.130]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8C62D63AE2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by epaphras.cnm-vra.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CF4C496; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:46:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:46:25 -0800 From: Micah Stetson To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] 9term customization Message-ID: <20041210004625.GA19541@epaphras> Mail-Followup-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE5@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> <20041209182451.GB6041@epaphras> <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE6@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2814F26DA6908F41927A81C410C4991A02079BE6@siamun.server.bl.corp.intranet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:46:38PM -0200, Gabriel Cosentino de Barros wrote: > > fn cd { builtin cd $1; prompt=(`{pwd}^'% ' ' ') } > > I don't quite understand that. > I tryied simply entering it into rcsh and it did nothing. Unlike in bash and such, $prompt doesn't get special evaluation whenever a prompt is displayed. There is no special support for dynamic prompt strings. Simply setting $prompt to a value including the current working directory will make it always display that value, irregardless of changes to the working directory. The above function definition uses the more general facilities of rc to get the job done without needing special backslash escapes and other such nonsense. We replace the 'cd' command with a version that first calls the original cd command and then sets the prompt with the new working directory. You shouldn't see the prompt change until after you run cd. > then i entered > just "prompt=(`{pwd}^'% ' ' ')" and then rcsh crashed. This should have made the prompt indicate which directory you ran that command in for the rest of the session. But 9pm is old and unmaintained, and I've seen it behave strangely and/or crash under some newer versions of Windows. You may be out of luck, unless you want to try to fix it. Micah From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Fri Dec 10 14:32:21 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Fri Dec 10 14:32:21 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1A4ADC67A3 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 00:30:59 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id BBE2F63A2E for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 00:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13851-02-4 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 00:30:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 967BA639D7 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 00:30:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9f7d0a98a6355fb947c360ae1b2a05b9@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] supermicro dual P3 works From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:32:06 +0900 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > For the archives; I have finally made my Dual P3 to be reliable. >=20 > I had two problems: > It appears to need P133 RAM even though the bus runs at 100Mhz. After I read your post, I've been trying to find a chance to test our dual P3(550MHz) terminal again, and at last, today, I found time for it. The machine (old Tekram P6B40D-A5 motherboard with dual Slot 1=E2=98=BA Pen III(550MHz)) has been running just by single CPU, because it once wor= ked for dual Pen 3, but I had problem in stability for a long time. I forgot what I did when it became unstable... Then, today, I changed a RAM card from 133MHz to a 133MHz another one, and now it has 512MB RAM, and running just for a terminal. Yes, it gets stable once again. So, I must have changed a memory card from someone 133MHz to someone similar, but somewhat different. Anyway, now I have a dual Pen3(550MHz) terminal again. Thanks Steve to = give me a hint to deal with it. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Dec 11 00:52:06 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Dec 11 00:52:06 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5A1AAC67D6 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:51:52 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 1153963C9F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15388-01-83 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.186.80]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DA7AB63B55 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rcbilson@localhost) by plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca (8.11.7/8.11.7) id iBAFpMk12274 for 9fans@cse.psu.edu; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:51:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:51:22 -0500 (EST) From: Richard C Bilson Message-Id: <200412101551.iBAFpMk12274@plg2.math.uwaterloo.ca> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] 9term customization X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > But 9pm is old and unmaintained, and I've seen it behave > strangely and/or crash under some newer versions of > Windows. You may be out of luck, unless you want to try > to fix it. I can confirm that -- on XP I can't get shell functions to work at all. I tried poking at it a while back, but it was before the free release of the MS C compiler, so I was trying to make it compile under gcc, which begat more problems, which led me to give up in the end. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Dec 11 02:39:17 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Dec 11 02:39:17 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id E660EC6716 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:39:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C276663AC1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23643-01-39 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C1BD131912 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from g (4.piscataway-09rh15-16rt.nj.dial-access.att.net[12.75.244.4]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2004121017383811300d76tme>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 17:38:38 +0000 Message-ID: <6d0cac4bece238981f87835046c70c15@yourdomain.dom> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 12:43:48 -0500 From: west9@worldnet.att.net To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] wierd interrupt 0xc6 X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I've been getting this exception for a while now on modem downloads longer than about 3min: "wierd interrupt 0xc6" . It appears to be generated by the uart driver: grep weird ./* ./uarti8250.c: iprint("weird uart interrupt 0x%2.2uX\n", iir) I tried reseating the modem board. Does this mean I should start looking for a new mother board? Suggestions, please. Thanks -Tom From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Dec 11 03:15:04 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Dec 11 03:15:04 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3DA3FC67C7 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:14:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7781363FE1 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28284-01-23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from plan9.cs.bell-labs.com (plan9.bell-labs.com [204.178.31.2]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 63E7F63C6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:14:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:14:19 -0500 From: jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] wierd interrupt 0xc6 In-Reply-To: <6d0cac4bece238981f87835046c70c15@yourdomain.dom> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu It looks like the handling of Irls = 0x06, /* Receiver Line Status */ got lost in the rewrite a little while ago. You could try adding a case for it in i8250interrupt, lumping it with Irda and Ictoi, i.e. case Irda: /* Received Data Available */ case Irls: /* Receiver Line Status */ case Ictoi: /* Character Time-out Indication */ That may do, or we might have to split handling the data and error conditions if it causes problems. It means you are getting overrun, parity, framing or break interrupts. --jim On Fri Dec 10 12:39:05 EST 2004, west9@worldnet.att.net wrote: > I've been getting this exception for a while now on modem > downloads longer than about 3min: "wierd interrupt 0xc6" . It appears to be generated by the uart driver: > > grep weird ./* > ./uarti8250.c: iprint("weird uart interrupt 0x%2.2uX\n", iir) > > I tried reseating the modem board. > > Does this mean I should start looking for a new mother board? > > Suggestions, please. > > Thanks > -Tom From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sat Dec 11 04:03:26 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sat Dec 11 04:03:26 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A5E1FC672F for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:03:24 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4CA0E63A78 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01280-01-81 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from gau.lava.net (gau.lava.net [64.65.64.28]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 2F53463A76 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from malasada.lava.net (malasada.lava.net [64.65.64.17]) by gau.lava.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850B817284 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:02:57 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:02:57 -1000 (HST) From: Tim Newsham To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] minor acme nitpick X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu In acme the commands for turning on and off scrolling are Noscroll and Scroll. You have to type both of these in if you want both commands around. If they were however something like "NoScroll" and "Scroll" you could just put "NoScroll" in your title bar and middle-drag over the "Scroll" part of it to turn scrolling back on. This would save a little real estate and typing and costs just 1 bit flip. Tim N. 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The latter makes directory listing *very* slow and so disabled by default - its controlled by a command line option. As usual email me if there are pronlems. My aquarela changes stalled, I got it to cooperate with cifs, but NT4 support is still broken. Its much work, I just cannot find what aquarela is doing that is upsetting NT so much (ethereal is your friend). -Steve From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sun Dec 12 07:29:57 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sun Dec 12 07:29:57 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 23FA463F15 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:29:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 78A1763D4A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05365-01-21 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.115]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 5F08C63AE0 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from g (35.piscataway-08rh16rt.nj.dial-access.att.net[12.75.243.35]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2004121122290011100ik7kle>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 22:29:00 +0000 Message-ID: <5691fb73f5e8ae521c1341d29ba66ab1@yourdomain.dom> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:01:08 -0500 From: west9@worldnet.att.net To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] Re: wierd interrupt 0xc6 X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I made the changes to /sys/src/9/pc/uarti8250.c specified by jmk: diff uarti8250.c_orig uarti8250.c 498a499 > case Irls: /* Receiver Line Status */ and mk'd and installed a 9pcdisk. As a test I downloaded 2.7MB which with the old 9pcdisk probably would have resulted in "wierd interrupt 0xc6". With the modified 9pcdisk there were no weird... Thanks, Jim. -Tom From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sun Dec 12 11:05:04 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sun Dec 12 11:05:04 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A0A5063DA0 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:04:56 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id AC592318B6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:04:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17338-01-23 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 70AA7318AD for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 21:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so732731wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:04:19 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lnwXWuZ5Mnb59Ncx+yVc51Tn5sG/WYrgMY3N3LwNVxEh/09DkQxH5Or4aQBgzRkDhlTMDNNfUnxPI2Nw7MU0nhqrDR3uYCpFaT5DqPgTOTMpTuyfTzId/NQBIr8LIeXeTVgzJ1xy5HSif5IbUTK7N1iWbaSPrVDErwYCV8sctqw= Received: by 10.54.36.62 with SMTP id j62mr763797wrj; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.18.47 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:04:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3e1162e604121118047b65152e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:04:18 -0800 From: David Leimbach To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] plan 9 xenpc build attempt X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Leimbach , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Trying to build the ../pc source from the xenpc directory that Ron asked me to make and I'm stalled out on doing this task for now. There's a lot of interesting little scripts and make rules pulled in from elsewhere in the pc mkfile and really it's not terribly fun or interesting for me to play with this stuff when I've got other projects I feel I can make progress on that interest me more. Not sure what exactly I need to do here to get it to build but I'm completely stalled out here. I don't expect I'll spend much more time on this until I receive further instructions for trying this. I also don't understand why I can't just copy the ../pc source into the xenpc directory and start going. I'm not terribly interested in bending the Plan 9 kernel build system to do xenpc builds at this time and I don't expect my motivation to do this sort of thing to increase in the near future. Dave From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Sun Dec 12 17:57:08 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Sun Dec 12 17:57:08 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DFBA163F95 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:57:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id C944F63E3A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08561-01-91 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id A001E63D34 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 94456 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2004 08:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 12 Dec 2004 08:56:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2004 08:56:26 -0000 Received: from valinore.titech.ac.jp by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id iBC8uPq69915; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:56:25 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <8ba5278400307b60a0b903243cb0e57d@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <9.nashi@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 17:56:19 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu I suscceeded to play the speakers but not without a few problems. My VMware 3.2 was bad. It doesn't support isochronous transfer. I tried to run p9 natively on the same PC, and the usb speakers started to play suddenly. cpu% usb/usbd cpu% usb/usbaudio -v x Warning, can't configure playout for 44100 Hz, configuring for 48000 Hz instead Both cat a000 and madplay 01.mp3 produced a little high pitched music compared to the original. That's obvious because it is configured as 48000 Hz. I will look into madplay if i can make it play 48000 Hz. And the other problem is that I can't change volume. I will plug the speakers to a tip9ug server when the above problems are gone. Maybe, somebody can surprise me with a nice music. :) -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 13 11:34:44 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 13 11:34:44 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 689886162 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:33:41 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7F6C263C82 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05582-01-50 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp (granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp [157.16.101.69]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id ABF9531E6A for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:33:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file From: Kenji Okamoto Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:35:03 +0900 In-Reply-To: <8ba5278400307b60a0b903243cb0e57d@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > And the other problem is that I can't change volume. Is your USB device is only for 2 channels, means Left and Right? I now think we can devide USB audio devices into two groups, only for stereo or for multi-channel (say 5.1 ch etc.), the former of which may never have Master Volume, and the latter has it. How about, Sape, to aplly this rule? By the way, Takeshi, it's good for you to use native Plan 9 machine.=E2=98= =BA Howeve, yesterday was power off day here, and I experienced very very calm my room. Hmm, I'm living in a room filled with noisy many PCs. Kenji From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 13 11:45:31 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 13 11:45:31 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DC58463D5E for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:45:25 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6C5A0318DF for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04114-01-77 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 41818318A6 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 21:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 15604 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2004 02:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 13 Dec 2004 02:44:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2004 02:44:39 -0000 Received: from valinore.titech.ac.jp by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id iBD2icq123992; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:44:38 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <45841804106a42305a800f44ff5b48cf@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <9.nashi@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:44:34 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Mon Dec 13 11:33:48 JST 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote: > > And the other problem is that I can't change volume. > > Is your USB device is only for 2 channels, means Left and Right? Yes. Two speakers and a usb connector. No physical volume dial on the spkeakers. > By the way, Takeshi, it's good for you to use native Plan 9 machine.? :) I always use native p9 for servers (as, fs, cpu). Only my terminal is running on VMware. I need Windows for the sake of other part of my work, though. Naughty jobs for naughty OSes, I guess. -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 13 12:49:40 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 13 12:49:40 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0B8BF63DA0 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:49:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DEF84639C3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09698-01-37 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from plain.rackshack.net (unknown [207.44.192.47]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8C77D639C2 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.infernopark.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by plain.rackshack.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id iBD96Qao002573 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:06:26 -0600 Received: from 69.115.255.175 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vdharani@infernopark.com) by www.infernopark.com with HTTP; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:06:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <30419.69.115.255.175.1102928786.squirrel@www.infernopark.com> In-Reply-To: <8ba5278400307b60a0b903243cb0e57d@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> References: <8ba5278400307b60a0b903243cb0e57d@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 03:06:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file From: vdharani@infernopark.com To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > I will look into madplay if i can make it play 48000 Hz. > And the other problem is that I can't change volume. Long back Sape helped me getting Xitel Pro Hifi-Link USB audio device up and running. But it had the same two issues you mentioned. After going through mad player source, I figured how to get it to play at 48000 Hz. I have put the changes in location given below. Hope this solves your problem. Hope this helps. Here is the link: http://www.infernopark.com/plan9/mad/mad.html Thanks dharani -------------------- Notes ------------------------------- mad player patch In Plan 9, the output speed for some USB audio devices cannot be set to 44.1KHz. So the audio device becomes practically unusable for things like MP3 playback. After going through mad player's code, I figured that it wa= s a simple (actually one-line) change to get it to run for 48KHz sampling. With this change, mad player resamples the chunk of audio data to 48KHz and outputs the data. With the change in place, madplay just auto-detects (by reading /dev/volume and finding out the speed) and enables resampling if needed. To force resampling, use -u option. How to build - Download mad mp3 player from here. - gunzip and extract the contents. - Replace madplay.c with this version of madplay.c - Compile and run Here is the diff of the madplay.c file: diff.dat I tested it with Xitel Pro Hifi-Link (to check it works) and Xitel Hifi-Link AN1 (to check it doesnt break the code for non-48KHz devices). Many thanks to Sape for getting the Xitel Pro Hifi-Link working on Plan 9 and helping resolve other USB issues. ... -------------------- End ------------------------------- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 13 14:06:07 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 13 14:06:07 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 4C42F63EE1 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:06:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7C96631622 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11510-01-78 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3401F17A45 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iBD55at7004399; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:05:36 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iBD55atQ028622; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:05:36 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:05:36 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. 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From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 13 14:56:50 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Mon Dec 13 14:56:50 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6D30463F16 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:56:49 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id B7B7431EB3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12436-01-97 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:56:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx2.net.titech.ac.jp (mx2.net.titech.ac.jp [131.112.125.31]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with SMTP id 397CB31E70 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 66589 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2004 05:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vc2.net.titech.ac.jp) (131.112.125.36) by mx2.net.titech.ac.jp with SMTP; 13 Dec 2004 05:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO o.cc.titech.ac.jp) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2004 05:56:11 -0000 Received: from valinore.titech.ac.jp by mail-o.cc.titech.ac.jp (8.11.3/1.1.10.5/20Feb97-0455PM) id iBD5uAq134792; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:56:10 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <86f1ff6a327ca01c13e9e7e5268c17c9@orthanc.cc.titech.ac.jp> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] /dev/audio test file From: YAMANASHI Takeshi <9.nashi@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:56:00 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu > > I will look into madplay if i can make it play 48000 Hz. > > And the other problem is that I can't change volume. : > I figured how to get it to play at 48000 Hz. I > have put the changes in location given below. Hope this solves your > problem. Hope this helps. > > Here is the link: http://www.infernopark.com/plan9/mad/mad.html Thank you very much, vdharani. With your modification, my usb speakers started to play under the correct key. But I can't set volume yet. % echo volume 0 > /dev/audioctl % madplay 01.mp3 The above still plays with the loudest volume. I attached the logs for: - usbaudio -V - usbaudio -Vd-1 -v x - usbd -dv Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks -- ++++ usbaudio -V cpu% usb/usbaudio -V Audio output unit 1 Audio Feature Unit 13 for Playback mute control on master channel volume control on master channel Device can play to Speaker Interface 1, alt 1: stereo, 16 bits, discrete frequencies are: 48000 Playback on endpoint 6 Warning, can't configure playout for 44100 Hz, configuring for 48000 Hz instead Playback speed control Playback mute control master Play Mute Unit = 13 value[0] = 0 Playback volume control master Play Volume Unit = 13 master Play Volume Unit = 13 master Play Volume Unit = 13 master Play Volume Unit = 13 Playback channels control Playback resolution control Pitch control = ON setcontrol: Play Mute Unit = 13 master Play Mute value = False of Unit 13 setcontrol: PlayVolume Unit = 13 master Volume value = -2560 of Units 13 ++++ usbaudio -Vd-1 -v x term% cpu -h kremvax cpu% bind -b '#U' /dev cpu% cd /dev/usb0 cpu% ls -l d-r-xr-xr-x U 0 sauron sauron 0 Oct 28 14:35 0 d-r-xr-xr-x U 0 sauron sauron 0 Oct 28 14:35 1 --rw-rw-rw- U 0 sauron sauron 0 Oct 28 14:35 new --rw-rw-rw- U 0 sauron sauron 0 Oct 28 14:35 port cpu% cd 1 cpu% ls ctl ep6data setup status cpu% cd cpu% usb/usbaudio -Vd-1 -v x out 5 [8] 80 06 00 01 00 00 ff 03 in 5 [18] 12 01 10 01 00 00 00 08 8c 0d 01 00 10 00 01 02 00 01 pdesc 1.-1 [18] desc 1.-1 [18] 0x01: usb (bcd)0110 class 0 subclass 0 proto 0 [0.0.0] max0 8 vendor 0xd8c product 0x1 device (bcd)0010 man 1 prod 2 serial 0 nconfig 1 out 5 [8] 80 06 00 02 00 00 ff 03 in 5 [110] 09 02 6e 00 02 01 00 80 fa 09 04 00 00 00 01 01 00 00 09 24 01 00 01 28 00 01 01 0c 24 02 01 01 01 00 02 03 00 00 00 0a 24 06 0d 01 01 03 00 00 00 09 24 03 03 01 03 00 0d 00 09 04 01 00 00 01 02 00 00 09 04 01 01 01 01 02 00 00 07 24 01 01 01 01 00 0b 24 02 01 02 02 10 01 80 bb 00 09 05 06 09 c0 00 01 00 00 07 25 01 00 00 00 00 pdesc 1.0 [110] desc 1.0 [9] 0x02: config 1: tdlen 110 ninterface 2 iconfig 0 attr 0x80 power 500mA desc 1.0 [9] 0x04: interface 0: alt 0 nept 0 class 0x1 subclass 0x1 proto 0 [audio.control.0] iinterface 0 desc 1.0 [9] 0x24: 1.1: Class-Specific AC Interface Header Descriptor AudioDeviceClass release (bcd)0100, TotalLength 40, InCollection 1 aInterfaceNr 1 1 desc 1.0 [12] 0x24: 1.1: Audio Input Terminal Descriptor bTerminalId 1, wTerminalType 0x101 (USB Streaming), bAssocTerminal 0 bNrChannels 2, wChannelConfig 0x3, iChannelNames 0 iTerminal 0 Audio output unit 1 desc 1.0 [10] 0x24: 1.1: Audio Feature Unit 13 bUnitId 13, bSourceId 1, bControlSize 1 for Playback mute control on master channel volume control on master channel Number of Play Units = 1, and consists of 1, Number of Record Units = 0, and consists of Number of masterRecAGC Units = 0, and consists of Number of masterRecMute Units = 0, and consists of Number of LRRecVol Units = 0, and consists of Number of masterPlayMute Units = 1, and consists of 13, Number of masterPlayVol Units = 1, and consists of 13, Number of LRPlayVol Units = 0, and consists of desc 1.0 [9] 0x24: 1.1: Audio Output Terminal Descriptor bTerminalId 3, wTerminalType 0x301 (Speaker), bAssocTerminal 0 bSourceId 13, iTerminal 0 Device can play to Speaker desc 1.0 [9] 0x04: interface 1: alt 0 nept 0 class 0x1 subclass 0x2 proto 0 [audio.stream.0] iinterface 0 desc 1.0 [9] 0x04: interface 1: alt 1 nept 1 class 0x1 subclass 0x2 proto 0 [audio.stream.0] iinterface 0 desc 1.0 [7] 0x24: 1.2: Audio stream for TerminalID 1, delay 1, format_tag 0x1 desc 1.0 [11] 0x24: 1.2: Interface 1, alt 1: stereo, 16 bits, discrete frequencies are: 48000 desc 1.0 [9] 0x05: addr 0x06 attrib 0x09 maxpkt 192 interval 1ms [OUT] [Iso] [Adaptive]refresh 0 synchaddress 0 desc 1.0 [7] 0x25: CS_ENDPOINT for attributes 0x0, lockdelayunits 0, lockdelay 0x0, does not have sampling-frequency control, does not have pitch control Playback on endpoint 6 findalt(0, 2, 16, 44100) failed Warning, can't configure playout for 44100 Hz, configuring for 48000 Hz instead setcontrol channels: Set alt 1 out 5 [8] 01 0b 01 00 01 00 00 00 setcontrol resolution: Set alt 1 out 5 [8] 01 0b 01 00 01 00 00 00 =======Start of listing default values of feature units======= Playback speed control Playback mute control out 5 [8] a1 81 00 01 00 0d 01 00 in 5 [1] 00 master Play Mute Unit = 13 value[0] = 0 Playback volume control out 5 [8] a1 82 00 02 00 0d 02 00 in 5 [2] 00 d2 master Play Volume Unit = 13 out 5 [8] a1 83 00 02 00 0d 02 00 in 5 [2] 00 1c master Play Volume Unit = 13 out 5 [8] a1 84 00 02 00 0d 02 00 in 5 [2] 00 02 master Play Volume Unit = 13 out 5 [8] a1 81 00 02 00 0d 02 00 in 5 [2] 00 00 master Play Volume Unit = 13 Record bass control not readable Record mid control not readable Record treble control not readable Record equalizer control not readable Record agc control not readable Record delay control not readable Record bassboost control not readable Record loudness control not readable Playback channels control Playback resolution control Playback speed control not readable Playback mute control not readable Playback volume control not readable Playback bass control not readable Playback mid control not readable Playback treble control not readable Playback equalizer control not readable Playback agc control not readable Playback delay control not readable Playback bassboost control not readable Playback loudness control not readable Playback channels control not readable Playback resolution control not readable =======Start of setting values of feature units======= Configuring playback endpoint for 48000 Hz sent `ep 6 1 w 4 48000' to /dev/usb/0/ctl out 5 [9] 22 01 00 02 06 00 01 00 01 out 5 [8] a2 81 00 02 06 00 01 00 in 5 [1] 01 Pitch control = ON setcontrol: Play Mute Unit = 13 out 5 [9] 21 01 00 01 00 0d 01 00 00 out 5 [8] a1 81 00 01 00 0d 01 00 in 5 [1] 00 master Play Mute value = False of Unit 13 masterplayvol.max = 7168 masterplayvol.min = -11776 master Play volume[0] = -2304 setcontrol: PlayVolume Unit = 13 out 5 [10] 21 01 00 02 00 0d 02 00 00 f7 out 5 [8] a1 81 00 02 00 0d 02 00 in 5 [2] 00 f6 master Volume value = -2560 of Units 13 cpu% io:<-Tversion tag 65535 msize 8216 version '9P2000' io:->Rversion tag 65535 msize 4120 version '9P2000' io:<-Tattach tag 4 fid 346 afid -1 uname nashi aname io:->Rattach tag 4 qid (0000000000000000 0 d) io:<-Twalk tag 4 fid 346 newfid 347 nwname 3 0:usb0 1:1 2:ep6data io:->Rerror tag 4 ename file does not exist io:<-Twalk tag 4 fid 346 newfid 350 nwname 1 0:audio io:->Rwalk tag 4 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000004 0 ) cpu% cpu% cat /dev/audioctl io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 259 nwname 1 0:audioctl io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000002 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 259 mode 0 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000002 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 259 offset 0 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 121 'speed out 48000 48000 48000 mute out 0 0 0 0 volume out -2560 -1' speed out 48000 48000 48000 mute out 0 0 0 0 volume out -2560 -11776 7168 512 channels out 2 2 2 resolution out 16 16 16 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 259 offset 121 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 0 '' io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 259 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% echo volume -11776 > /dev/audioctl io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 259 nwname 1 0:audioctl io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000002 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 259 mode 17 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000002 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Twrite tag 2 fid 259 offset 0 count 14 'volume -11776 ' line: volume -11776 rwrite: volume playback -11776controlproc: setcontrol out volume -11776 setcontrol: PlayVolume Unit = 0 value[0] = -2e00 value[1] = -1010102 value[2] = -1010102 value[3] = -1010102 value[4] = -1010102 value[5] = -1010102 value[6] = -1010102 value[7] = -1010102 value[8] = -1010102 io:->Rwrite tag 2 count 14 io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 259 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% cat /dev/audioctl io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 259 nwname 1 0:audioctl io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000002 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 259 mode 0 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000002 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 259 offset 0 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 107 'speed out 48000 48000 48000 mute out 0 0 0 0 volume out 0 0 0 0 ' speed out 48000 48000 48000 mute out 0 0 0 0 volume out 0 0 0 0 channels out 2 2 2 resolution out 16 16 16 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 259 offset 107 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 0 '' io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 259 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% echo volume out 0 > /dev/audioctl io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 259 nwname 1 0:audioctl io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000002 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 259 mode 17 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000002 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Twrite tag 2 fid 259 offset 0 count 13 'volume out 0 ' line: volume out 0 rwrite: volume playback 0volume playback is not settableio:->Rerror tag 2 ename volume playback is not settable echo: write error: volume playback is not settable io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 259 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% cat /dev/volume io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 360 nwname 1 0:volume io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000001 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 360 mode 0 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000001 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 360 offset 0 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 16 'speed out 48000 ' speed out 48000 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 360 offset 16 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 0 '' io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 360 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% echo volume 0 > /dev/volume io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 360 nwname 1 0:volume io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000001 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 360 mode 17 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000001 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Twrite tag 2 fid 360 offset 0 count 9 'volume 0 ' line: volume 0 rwrite: volume playback '0' volume playback is not settableio:->Rerror tag 2 ename volume playback is not settable echo: write error: volume playback is not settable io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 360 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% cat /dev/audioctl io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 259 nwname 1 0:audioctl io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000002 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 259 mode 0 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000002 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 259 offset 0 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 107 'speed out 48000 48000 48000 mute out 0 0 0 0 volume out 0 0 0 0 ' speed out 48000 48000 48000 mute out 0 0 0 0 volume out 0 0 0 0 channels out 2 2 2 resolution out 16 16 16 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 259 offset 107 count 4096 io:->Rread tag 2 count 0 '' io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 259 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% echo volume out 0 > /dev/audioctl io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 360 nwname 1 0:audioctl io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000002 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 360 mode 17 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000002 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Twrite tag 2 fid 360 offset 0 count 13 'volume out 0 ' line: volume out 0 rwrite: volume playback 0volume playback is not settableio:->Rerror tag 2 ename volume playback is not settable echo: write error: volume playback is not settable io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 360 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% pwd /usr/nashi cpu% madplay 01.mp3 io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 360 nwname 1 0:volume io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000001 0 ) io:<-Topen tag 2 fid 360 mode 0 io:->Ropen tag 2 qid (0000000000000001 0 ) iounit 0 io:<-Tread tag 2 fid 360 offset 0 count 512 io:->Rread tag 2 count 16 'speed out 48000 ' MPEG Audio Decoder version 0.11.4 (beta) - Copyright (C) 2000 Robert Leslie io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 365 nwname 1 0:audio io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000004 0 ) io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 365 io:->Rclunk tag 2 io:<-Twalk tag 2 fid 346 newfid 365 nwname 1 0:audio io:->Rwalk tag 2 nwqid 1 0:(0000000000000004 0 ) io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 365 io:->Rclunk tag 2 Title: Born in Chicago Artist: The Paul Butterfield Blues Ban Album: Blues Brothers 2000 Genre: Other Year: Track: 1 Comment: ID3: version 2.3.0, flags 0x00, size 14326 bytes Length: 185965 ID3: unhandled APIC (Attached picture): flags 0x0000, 12340 bytes Title/Songname/Content description: Born in Chicago Track number/Position in set: 1 Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s): The Paul Butterfield Blues Band Content type: Soundtrack Album/Movie/Show title: Blues Brothers 2000 read9pmsg interrupted io:<-Tclunk tag 2 fid 360 io:->Rclunk tag 2 cpu% ++++ usbd -vdf term% cpu -h kremvax cpu% bind -b '#U' /dev cpu% ls -l /dev/usb0 d-r-xr-xr-x U 0 sauron sauron 0 Oct 28 14:35 /dev/usb0/0 --rw-rw-rw- U 0 sauron sauron 0 Oct 28 14:35 /dev/usb0/new --rw-rw-rw- U 0 sauron sauron 0 Oct 28 14:35 /dev/usb0/port cpu% cpu% cpu% cpu% usb/usbd -vdf enumerate port usb0/0.1 enumerate port usb0/0.2 usbd: usb0/0: port 1 attached usb0/0.1 status 0x3 enabling port usb0/0.1 usb0/0.1 status now 0x3 usbd: usb0/0: set speed high usbd: usb0/1: set speed high pdesc 1.-1 [18] desc 1.-1 [18] 0x01: usb (bcd)0110 class 0 subclass 0 proto 0 [0.0.0] max0 8 vendor 0xd8c product 0x1 device (bcd)0010 man 1 prod 2 serial 0 nconfig 1 pdesc 1.0 [110] desc 1.0 [9] 0x02: config 1: tdlen 110 ninterface 2 iconfig 0 attr 0x80 power 500mA desc 1.0 [9] 0x04: interface 0: alt 0 nept 0 class 0x1 subclass 0x1 proto 0 [audio.control.0] iinterface 0 desc 1.0 [9] 0x24: (unknown type) 24 01 00 01 28 00 01 01 desc 1.0 [12] 0x24: (unknown type) 24 02 01 01 01 00 02 03 00 00 00 desc 1.0 [10] 0x24: (unknown type) 24 06 0d 01 01 03 00 00 00 desc 1.0 [9] 0x24: (unknown type) 24 03 03 01 03 00 0d 00 desc 1.0 [9] 0x04: interface 1: alt 0 nept 0 class 0x1 subclass 0x2 proto 0 [audio.stream.0] iinterface 0 desc 1.0 [9] 0x04: interface 1: alt 1 nept 1 class 0x1 subclass 0x2 proto 0 [audio.stream.0] iinterface 0 desc 1.0 [7] 0x24: (unknown type) 24 01 01 01 01 00 desc 1.0 [11] 0x24: (unknown type) 24 02 01 02 02 10 01 80 bb 00 desc 1.0 [9] 0x05: addr 0x06 attrib 0x09 maxpkt 192 interval 1ms [OUT] [Iso] [Adaptive]refresh 0 synchaddress 0 desc 1.0 [7] 0x25: (unknown type) 25 01 00 00 00 00 class 7 0 0x000101 class 7 6 0x000201 usbd: usb0/0.1: 1: not hub, high speed usbd: usb0/0: port 2 empty -- From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 14 00:26:25 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 14 00:26:25 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 3D26863E14 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:26:16 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0FD8731E49 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25641-01-32 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 86F5163AD3 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so893110wra for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:25:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NxHR59cniz1wDEDeM1tOvGjYnPJwn/OmpWC2mZPbtzIMVGhOM+JcnTFify0k6PNujauzCosDhjyT7SEQqCSqoJSZFk5c3OwYJQoZwmmyuQfH3btkQ3Wc4aqZXmMUQbkmI3CHw2TrFyW6Sxj0dD9iiUbMbhqgDkZdqqHddvyYu+8= Received: by 10.54.51.57 with SMTP id y57mr1453219wry; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.18.47 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:25:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3e1162e604121307251479fa80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:25:33 -0800 From: David Leimbach To: "Ronald G. Minnich" Subject: Re: [9fans] plan 9 xenpc build attempt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3e1162e604121118047b65152e@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: David Leimbach , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Well if I hadn't been traveling all last week and just gotten a bunch of "work work" added before the holiday coming up. I have a long holiday btw and might get another shot at this [sort of mandatory vacation... ugh]. Dave On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:05:36 -0700 (MST), Ronald G. Minnich wrote: > david, sorry this is not working for you, I'll see what happens when I try > it. > > thanks for trying > > ron > > From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 14 00:42:30 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 14 00:42:30 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 03E6B63F22 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:42:29 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 7A436639EC for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29216-01-54 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.203]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0C3006399F for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so215288wri for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:41:41 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=FQxIrwAwoFwALDBGCs6ecUOQt3iLPDGbpbyz9YoClCcZ6G3qrXKy2jGSSRy+QqHMkM9ilcVpu1U5f2yKq8zEmTZHxPc1soqgOGBQwNAnpEGnsLA7SgOQSjcDSvnZu8dlYM8pFL/ei1IrXIF6eBWZuaFzVpNTvkPKizNspUNrtyo= Received: by 10.54.24.27 with SMTP id 27mr2121396wrx; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:41:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.57.14 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 07:41:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 09:41:40 -0600 From: Eric Van Hensbergen To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1992_5280745.1102952500890" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Subject: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eric Van Hensbergen , Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu ------=_Part_1992_5280745.1102952500890 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I took a horrible, horrible picture. Hopefully Geoff has some that look better. >From left to right: Russ, Rob, Presto, Newsham, m4dh4tt3r, shailib, ???, ???, Andrey's envoy, Geoff, and Ron Minnich (who you can see cause he's trying to boot Xen on his laptop). Not sure who the guy in the back was (or two of the people in the front) - feel free to add in your name if I missed you. 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ESMTP id 03CA663FAD for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:52:33 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 0E3D363E4B for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29165-01-79 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.vitanuova.com (unknown [213.146.155.10]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id CF8FF63D34 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:52:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: To: ericvh@gmail.com, 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture From: C H Forsyth Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:58:15 0000 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu >>I took a horrible, horrible picture. from the result i should say you are clearly vying for the contract to produce Mr Blunkett's biometric identity cards. From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 14 00:55:50 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 14 00:55:50 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id DD4BA63EFF for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:55:48 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 16E856399D for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29216-01-81 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id A8B4D63587 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iBDFtHLm009641; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:55:17 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iBDFtHtQ013085; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:55:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 08:55:17 -0700 (MST) From: "Ronald G. Minnich" X-X-Sender: rminnich@linux.site To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cse.psu.edu Cc: X-BeenThere: 9fans@cse.psu.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu> List-Id: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans.cse.psu.edu> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu Errors-To: 9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp@cse.psu.edu On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, C H Forsyth wrote: > >>I took a horrible, horrible picture. > > from the result i should say you are clearly vying for the contract to produce > Mr Blunkett's biometric identity cards. yeah but he caught me from the best possible angle :-) ron From cse.psu.edu!9fans-bounces+arisawa=ar.aichi-u.ac.jp Tue Dec 14 01:02:22 JST 2004 remote from ar Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([130.203.4.6]) by ar; Tue Dec 14 01:02:22 JST 2004 Received: from psuvax1.cse.psu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 6068863F4C for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:02:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cse.psu.edu (CSE Mail Server) with ESMTP id 39C5163E27 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.cse.psu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (psuvax1 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00483-01-90 for <9fans@cse.psu.edu>; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from